# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1021 "2025-01-19T20:22:13Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@DesertDog](#): > > > > “Olive oil is people!” > > At least according to Popeye. I need you to sit on the thinking step and think about what you’ve done. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1022 "2025-01-19T20:37:39Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > “Olive oil is people!” Did Popeye eat Olive Oyl? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1023 "2025-01-19T20:47:47Z")
Nope; spinach. [whoosh!!😉] ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1024 "2025-01-19T21:09:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Farmers are getting nervous, now that RFKjr announced he wants to ban high fructose corn syrup and seed oils, both billion dollar crops in Trump Country. If RFK Jr. fails to get enough votes from Republicans to be confirmed, they’ll _ **say** _ this is due to his history of being pro-choice. But it will _ **actually** _ be because of the $$$$ they’re getting from lobbyists for Big Ag. . . . (Some commentators believe that _ **if** _ the Republicans make a ‘HEY WE’RE A CO-EQUAL BRANCH AND NOT MERE RUBBER-STAMPING SYCOPHANTS FOR TRUMP’ stand, it will be over RFK Jr (and no one else).) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1025 "2025-01-19T21:36:37Z")
Sounds about right. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1026 "2025-01-19T21:59:15Z")
So give the appearance of not being a rubberstamp over something neither they nor trump care about. Then go back to bootlicking rubber stamp once the TV cameras are pointed elsewhere. Governance as performance art. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1027 "2025-01-19T22:05:10Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Governance as performance art. Pretty much. As we all do from time to time, I suspect, I have to wonder what any of the Founders would make of all this… ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1028 "2025-01-19T22:08:14Z")
Let’s be honest. They’d be appalled that a black woman (never mind half-Asian!–only they wouldn’t have used the word Asian) was the runner up for the presidency. In their day, that would have made _her_ the Vice President (and then just wait for them to blow a gasket when they find out that, for another half day at least, she already IS the Vice President!). ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1029 "2025-01-19T22:11:08Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > They’d be appalled that a black woman (never mind half-Asian!–only they wouldn’t have used the word Asian) was the runner up for the presidency. Good point. Whatever views they had on the idea that the government should be run with integrity and honesty, they certainly would not be able to imagine it being run by a woman or by a non-white man. Still, even though Trump is white and male, I have a feeling they might have looked a trifle askance at his doings. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1030 "2025-01-19T22:25:42Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Governance as performance art. Sigh. Always has been. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1031 "2025-01-19T22:52:25Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > In my experience, one way to really upset a Republican is to call all the various farm supports socialism and farmer welfare. > > They have a million excuses, and all you have to do is say “Yeah, but that’s true for [whatever appropriate analog] as well.” For instance, I’m not sure how farmer supports are structured, but for a lot of corporate welfare their excuse is “that’s not a handout, it’s a tax break! They’re just handing over less of their own money to the government”. Except they only want to lower taxes on people they like, and occasionally even increase them on people they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1032 "2025-01-20T09:39:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Re: banning seed oils. Aren’t _all_ cooking/eating oils except olive oil made from seeds? What are we supposed to cook with? Petroleum? Whale oil? Animal fats. Which also have issues. Really, the biggest problem with cooking oils is the quantity people consume and switching to a different oil or fat doesn’t fix that. As well as olive oil being (mostly) from the fleshy part of the olive, avocado oil is also from the fruit and not the pit, and coconut oil, too. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1033 "2025-01-20T09:43:46Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Well reducing sugar would be beneficial, I’m not sure if you’re hinting that HFCS is worse than other sugars? Nope. There’s way too many added sugars in our food these days. I mostly cook from scratch, when I eat pre-prepared food I’m always startled by the amount of sweetness and salt in the food. We need less added sugar in the food. I’d rather we be growing more plants for nutrition than making more sugar. Also: > [@LSLGuy](#): > > IMO as long as HFCS is not only vastly cheaper than white sugar but is also vastly cheaper than most other ingredients except water, it’s going to be over-used in every product it goes into. If the HFCS price doubled and was expected to stay that way into the far future, a LOT of HFCS-containing products would be reformulated to contain less HFCS. And probably be less sweet as a result of not replacing the now-expensive HFCS with has-always-been-expensive cane or beet sugar. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1034 "2025-01-20T09:52:14Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > And there goes his support from the ultra-Orthodox. This may come as a shock, but the (presumably) Jewish Ultra-Orthodox have been cooking in various oils for millennia with no problem. Beef tallow and butter are perfectly OK (although not when used together) and there is also the traditional schmaltz, which is refined chicken fat. It’s lard they won’t use. Ditto for Muslims following their dietary laws. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > (Some commentators believe that _ **if** _ the Republicans make a ‘HEY WE’RE A CO-EQUAL BRANCH AND NOT MERE RUBBER-STAMPING SYCOPHANTS FOR TRUMP’ stand, it will be over RFK Jr (and no one else).) Thought they already pushed back against Gaetz. I’m OK with them also pushing back against RFK, Jr, too, just to be clear. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1035 "2025-01-20T10:06:47Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > This may come as a shock, but the (presumably) Jewish Ultra-Orthodox have been cooking in various oils for millennia with no problem. Beef tallow and butter are perfectly OK (although not when used together) and there is also the traditional schmaltz, which is refined chicken fat. It’s lard they won’t use. The main issue here is mixing meat and dairy. Butter can only be used for dairy meals, while tallow and schmaltz can only be used for meat meals. Vegetable oils are neutral, and can be used for anything, which makes them much more versatile and sensible to have around the house. They’re also cheap and last forever at room temperature, which is helpful if you’re not a rich schmuck. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1036 "2025-01-20T10:56:11Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Tallow and lard and butter, like the ancestors did. And goose fat. Another reason to annex Canada and their greasy geese. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1037 "2025-01-20T11:01:48Z")
To be fair, you can get a lot of schmaltz from even one Canadian Gosling. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1038 "2025-01-20T11:15:04Z")
I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1039 "2025-01-20T11:47:31Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > Okay, somebody needs to rewrite this song with lyrics referring to Der Trumpf. (Springtime for Donald?). I’m your huckleberry: > [@Trump Approval Hits 50%](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-approval-hits-50/784676/27): > > I’m seeing a musical out of all this. Springtime for Trumpster and America! Nuclear winter for Korea and Japan! Springtime for Kushner and Ivanka! Come on, alt-righties, go ahead and spooge your pants! \* Stranger Stranger ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1040 "2025-01-20T14:37:51Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Thought they already pushed back against Gaetz. I’m OK with them also pushing back against RFK, Jr, too, just to be clear. Gaetz was all behind the scenes. The fight (and vote) over RFK Jur. is going to happen in public. That’s taking things to a different level. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=53)