# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1441 "2025-02-11T16:05:05Z")
The China tariffs have gone into effects, and the new tariff rules eliminated an exception for shipments under $800. Now, every American that has a package coming from China, mostly small online purchases of clothing, toys and electronic trinkets……is getting an extra bill that they need to pay before they can get their stuff. No word from the administration on why China isn’t paying these bills as promised. [https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/trumps-tariffs-china-bite-us-bargain-hunting-online-shoppers-2025-02-06/](https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/trumps-tariffs-china-bite-us-bargain-hunting-online-shoppers-2025-02-06/) The impact on the shipping companies that have to deal with this bullshit is very significant. > **[Air cargo industry jolted by Trump tariffs on Chinese e-commerce](https://www.freightwaves.com/news/air-cargo-industry-jolted-by-trump-tariffs-on-chinese-e-commerce)** > > The cross-border e-commerce logistics ecosystem, including cargo airlines, is bracing for a downturn in business after the U.S. moved to ban low-value Chinese imports from qualifying for zero duties. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1442 "2025-02-11T18:05:26Z")
Actually, I support the change to the De Minimus rules. It was never intended to allow the industrial scale exportation of cheap crap direct from Chinese factories to US consumers. It was originally intended to be an exemption for people who returned from abroad and brought back stuff with them. The limit was increased, and companies like Temu figured out a way to use it to connect consumers directly with factories. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1443 "2025-02-11T19:29:22Z")
> **[Missouri Farmer in Danger of Losing His Farm Due to Federal Freeze Blasted...](https://www.latintimes.com/missouri-farmer-danger-losing-his-farm-due-federal-freeze-blasted-claiming-he-didnt-have-575239)** > > A Missouri cattle farmer is facing financial ruin after the USDA froze funding for key conservation programs, despite previously signed contracts. > The current USDA freeze under Trump’s leadership has left many disillusioned, including Holden, who has faced criticism after sharing his story on TikTok, with many telling him he “got exactly what he voted for.” … > > Holden defended his thought process in trusting the quiz and voting for Trump, explaining that his 17-hour workdays leave little time for political research. … > > As Holden continues to fight for his farm’s survival, his story highlights the real-world consequences of government policy shifts, and the challenges of civic engagement in a polarizing political climate. If you didn’t have time to do your research, maybe you should have MADE time to do your research! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1444 "2025-02-11T20:19:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > If you didn’t have time to do your research, maybe you should have MADE time to do your research! but…he took a QUIZ! I mean, a quiz! ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1445 "2025-02-11T20:21:12Z")
Yeah - I love him talking about how no one candidate supports ALL of his interests. Sure. But if you’ve got one huge honking issue that your economic security is going to depend on - like his farm loan/subsidy/welfare - you might wanna rate that considerably higher in your priorities than sliders on some internet quiz. I wonder if the quiz started of with, “Would you prefer a candidate who is a totally reprehensible dishonest creature?” ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1446 "2025-02-11T20:23:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > He’s nickel and diming them into obscurity. He has to. No pennies anymore. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1447 "2025-02-11T20:24:29Z")
But the leopard giving the quiz was _so nice!_ ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1448 "2025-02-11T20:27:44Z")
After 3 weeks into the Trump redux administration, if we could turn back time and people could revote knowing what they know now … does Harris win? > [@Dinsdale](#): > > I wonder if the quiz started of with or “Do you believe an insurrectionist should be President?” ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1449 "2025-02-11T20:29:40Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > He’s nickel and diming them into obscurity. > > He has to. > No pennies anymore. I kind of like the sound of “Dollaring them to disaster.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1450 "2025-02-11T20:34:29Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I wonder if the quiz started of with, “Would you prefer a candidate who is a totally reprehensible dishonest creature?” I picture it the other way: Do you want trans men showering with your daughters in gym? Do you support anti-Americans kneeling during our wonderful national Anthem? Are you opposed to CRT being taught in kindergarten? Do you support woke gays stealing your god given guns? Do you think liberal cities are post-apocalyptic hellholes? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1451 "2025-02-11T23:12:40Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Do you support woke gays stealing your god given guns? This needs to be Netflix’s next series. > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > After 3 weeks into the Trump redux administration, if we could turn back time and people could revote knowing what they know now … does Harris win? It does seem not-impossible. The MAGA true-believers wouldn’t waver, but there might be a large number of ‘less-informed’ voters who’ve caught on that the Trump promises they liked will not be fulfilled. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > No word from the administration on why China isn’t paying these bills as promised. Time for another distraction! Donald is re-naming New Mexico, New Trumpico!!! > [@Joey\_P](#): > > Another local brewery mentioned that they’re concerned about the price of aluminum (cans) spiking. Easiest prediction ever: both soft-drink and beer companies will be jacking up prices immediately. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1452 "2025-02-11T23:26:27Z")
But but but … trump _promised_ to lower the price of staples. If canned beer and canned soda aren’t staples of the MAGA set, I don’t know what would be. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1453 "2025-02-11T23:28:36Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If canned beer and canned soda aren’t staples of the MAGA set, I don’t know what would be. Yeah. They’re going to have to give that FoxNews brainstorm “it’s patriotic to pay higher prices” quite a workout. _Doublethink, doublethink, doublethink, to honor Perfect Leader!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1454 "2025-02-11T23:33:26Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Do you want trans men showering with your daughters in gym? > Do you support anti-Americans kneeling during our wonderful national Anthem? > Are you opposed to CRT being taught in kindergarten? > Do you support woke gays stealing your god given guns? > Do you think liberal cities are post-apocalyptic hellholes? This begs to be a patter song. Perhaps to the tune of I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Major General. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1455 "2025-02-11T23:48:37Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > If canned beer and canned soda aren’t staples of the MAGA set, I don’t know what would be. > > Yeah. They’re going to have to give that FoxNews brainstorm “it’s patriotic to pay higher prices” quite a workout. > > _Doublethink, doublethink, doublethink, to honor Perfect Leader!!!_ If the American workforce was unionized so they too would benefit from higher wages, paying higher prices for domestic products _could_ possibly indeed be patriotic. But they’d revolt at that union idea as being too Commie or something. Euro-socialists have unions; not red-blooded rugged individualist Americans. Despite some famous quote from the lead-up to the American Revolution about united standing and divided falling or something. So as long as it’s all about funneling the extra money to everyone but the American worker, it’s just another scam the RW losers have been / are being sold by the propagandists. Which they are buying hook, line, and sinker. By which they’ll be sunk. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1456 "2025-02-11T23:57:23Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > _Doublethink, doublethink, doublethink, to honor Perfect Leader!!!_ It’s the White(!) Queen’s gambit. “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1457 "2025-02-12T00:15:15Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It does seem not-impossible. The MAGA true-believers wouldn’t waver, but there might be a large number of ‘less-informed’ voters who’ve caught on that the Trump promises they liked will not be fulfilled. What weirds me out is how many people believed things that Trump **didn’t** promise, including some that were pretty much the opposite of what he said (e.g. the immigrants who thought he would make immigration easier). It’s mass delusion in action. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1458 "2025-02-12T02:40:06Z")
That’s pretty much standard human behavior, though. Bush’s supporters did the same thing. A lot of Obama voters swore up and down he supported very liberal or progressive positions when he was very much a centrist Democrat. Human beings pick a politician (or whoever) they like, ascribe their own positions to that person, and then find or manufacture rational sounding arguments to justify their choice, even when those arguments are factually bogus. We all do that to some extent (some clearly more than others). There’s a not unreasonable thesis that most “higher” reasoning really exists to justify decisions we’ve already made subconsciously. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1459 "2025-02-12T02:56:46Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > A lot of Obama voters swore up and down he supported very liberal or progressive positions when he was very much a centrist Democrat. I still remember arguing in AOL chatrooms with people who were upset that upon taking office in 2009 he didn’t prosecute George W. Bush “like he promised to”. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1460 "2025-02-12T04:29:06Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump and Musk will say “pass it or be primaried”. If this happens it will an interesting litmus test on whether R congresspeople think Trump is truly a lame duck or whether (by hook or by crook) he or his people are going to be able to run again in four years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=74)