# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
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I’m not sure if that’s a deliberate typo, but ‘Mush’ made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1482 "2025-02-12T17:59:05Z")

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That fucker Musk just makes shit up and the MAGAciles are so fucking gullible they lap it right up and repeat it as if it was gospel. If you voted for that orange infected polyp, then you deserve what you’re getting and I hope you get it hard. But for the rest of us, it’s going to be painful.

Next Democratic president should rename Fort Bragg to Fort Hillary-Hunter-Fauci.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1483 "2025-02-12T18:01:57Z")

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We spend nearly $100B a week on those items, his $1B fraud is about 1% of the total spend, from a rough guess provided from people in the treasury.

Curious that he says he asked them what % of the spend is fraud and instead of telling us what the agreed to % was, he tells us dollar amount. I wonder what the percentage was…

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1484 "2025-02-12T18:06:04Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> We spend nearly $100B a week on those items, his $1B fraud

[maga]HE’S SAVING US 1 BILLION DOLLARS! LET’S MAKE HIM KING![/maga]

That’s all they’re going to hear.

[hijack] if [/maga] means end of MAGA, I’m all for it

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1485 "2025-02-12T18:11:00Z")

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Anybody remember “the 2020 election was rigged by the Democrats” ruse?

I believe the archetype of this gambit was [" **ball curl" from “The Longest Yard” - NSFW**](https://youtu.be/UzDIkUau9i0).

> It worked once. It oughta’ work again, right?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1486 "2025-02-12T18:15:39Z")

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That scene is the main reason I like the original over the remake.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1487 "2025-02-12T18:16:59Z")

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Also: Jaws

[![](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/U~YAAOSwNS9hlCpZ/s-l1200.jpg) ](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/U~YAAOSwNS9hlCpZ/s-l1200.jpg)

It needed to be said 😉

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1488 "2025-02-12T18:34:15Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Elon Musk is starting to make threatening noises about Social Security

As mentioned in another thread (or maybe this one? they all run together) Disability is in the crosshairs. And it will mean face for dinner in the red states.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> That fucker Musk just makes shit up and the MAGAciles are so fucking gullible they lap it right up and repeat it as if it was gospel.

Yes, over on Breitbart they’re making up numbers and going on and on about the hundreds of billions of waste and fraud Elon has already found. It is now just an accepted fact.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1489 "2025-02-12T18:41:52Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> fraud Elon has already found

Note, he “found” this fraud by asking people how much fraud they thought existed.

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**Author:** ![knavette57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knavette57/32/3871_2.png) [@knavette57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knavette57)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1490 "2025-02-12T18:47:28Z")

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I know a number of folks on SSDI, including a child who receives death benefits due to their parent being deceased. It is not much money, most of them get a mere pittance, as in about 800 per month. All of them cannot afford their own housing, so they reside with others. One case of which I am familiar, the disabled person hands the check to his mom, who pays for heat and electricity, and gives him an allowance. Without it, I shudder to think what might happen, since she is elderly and also collects regular SS. They certainly are not living high on the hog, and she often asks for assistance from her church for food. She did not vote Trump, but most of the other disabled that I know about…they are trump voters. But I don’t want leopards eating their faces, since most of them are just not very well informed, and highly suggestible, and a couple do truly have physical issues as well as mental. Their politicians have deluded all of them, and nearly all of them are nice people, and I hate to see bad surprises coming for them.

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**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1491 "2025-02-12T19:10:38Z")

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> [@knavette57](#):
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> I know a number of folks on SSDI, including a child who receives death benefits due to their parent being deceased. It is not much money, most of them get a mere pittance, as in about 800 per month.

Are you possibly referring to SSI - because SSDI ( _Social Security Disability Insurance_ ) or Survivor’s benefits are not normally a pittance although they do depend on the worker’s income. ( If I had died leaving a 13 year old child, the child and my spouse would each get $2500/month) SSI is something different - that might be around $800 but it doesn’t depend on having any work history at all. I guarantee that SSI recipients are most at risk even if Musk gets chased away from regular SS- because that’s the program that looks the most like “welfare”

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
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> [@knavette57](#):
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> I know a number of folks on SSDI, including a child who receives death benefits due to their parent being deceased.

[maga]Get a job, ya bum![/maga]

Oh, I absolutely agree with you. SSDI, however _looks_ like a great place for finding fraud. “OK, so you cannot do your job of ditchdigging. Why don’t you become a computer programmer? Kick them off SSDI, the lazy bums!” Again, they’re going to go at it with a wrecking ball, who cares about the individuals who get hurt.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1493 "2025-02-12T19:18:18Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> THAT BEING SAID, you know his solution will be very ham-handed, and how many millions of legitimate claims are going to be denied / delayed / prosecuted, causing untold hardship? It sounds good _in theory_, but the reality will be a clusterfuck.

The solution will be an antithetical healthcare version of [Blackstone’s Ratio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone%27s_ratio) in criminal law (“It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”) taken to extremes:

It’s better that 1,000 legitimate claims be denied than approve one fraudulent claim.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1494 "2025-02-12T19:34:19Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> Again, they’re going to go at it with a wrecking ball, who cares about the individuals who get hurt.

Oh, they care a lot about the individuals being hurt; the more, the better.

The cruelty _is_ the point.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1495 "2025-02-12T22:02:55Z")

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A meme posted on my Trump cultist’s friend’s FB page; A smiling blonde (for some reason, sitting behind a line of hot sauce bottles) with the caption **Watching Trump slash federal programs knowing it doesn’t affect you because you’re not a member of the Parasite Class**.

I cannot _wait_ until leopards eat her face! 🐆

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1496 "2025-02-12T22:27:41Z")

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Huh, didn’t know US farmers were considered the “parasite class”. Good to know.

> **[Farmers on the hook for millions after Trump freezes USDA funds](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/feb/11/farmers-on-the-hook-for-millions-after-trump-freez/)**
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> Farmers report missing millions of dollars of funding they were promised by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, despite promises from the Trump administration that a federal funding freeze would not apply to projects directly benefiting individuals.

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Trump’ll just throw’em another $25ish billion bail-out for them again.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1498 "2025-02-12T22:37:28Z")

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Sadly, most likely.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s mass delusion in action.

Sounds like a good title for a book on Voting in the Early 21st Century…

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1500 "2025-02-13T00:19:52Z")

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It would be interesting to hear who “told him” about that magnitude of SS retirement fraud. Sure is contrary to anything I’ve heard working for SSA for 38 years.

Re; SSA disability benefits - DIB or SSI, you ought to realize that the system really does not work to get benefits to those you or I might consider the most needy or deserving. Instead, all it does is administer a complex bureaucratic framework, putting people into pigeonholes. I really cannot figure our what societal “good” DIB accomplishes. It is essentially today’s welfare, plus an opportunity for some folk to boost their overall retirement benefits.

Sure, plenty of disability applicants overstate their difficulties. Happens ALL THE TIME. Plenty of doctors support claims with few findings and little treatment. Many folk are physically and mentally capable of performing SOME undemanding, low paying job - tho such jobs might not exist in their immediate area. Lots of benefits merely go to compensate insurers for longterm benefits they pay. And no one has ever explained to me why vets can get 100% VA disability AND SSA DIB - with no set off.

Plenty of room to improve the system. But I have no expectation it will happen in any intelligent manner. Of course we are still waiting for someone ANYONE to nudge withholding/retirement ages/etc to stave off insolvency…

Medicare is its own special kind of mess.

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