# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1801 "2025-02-25T21:19:36Z")
When Obama tried to oust Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN said they would not attend if they went through with it. > **[White House attempted to shut out Fox News reporter](https://www.rcfp.org/white-house-attempted-shut-out-fox-news-reporter/)** > > Tension between the White House and Fox News continued to mount this week after broadcast bureau chiefs in Washington refused to go along with the Obama’s administration’s attempt to squeeze Fox News out of an interview. It’s the kind of thing that SHOULD be remembered by those still in favor, but won’t be. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1802 "2025-02-25T22:12:52Z")
_“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."_ –Hugh Trevor-Roper, English historian, paraphrasing Joseph Goebbels, WWII German Propaganda Minister **TL;DR** : “I’m Joe Goebbels and I _approved_ this message!” ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1803 "2025-02-26T06:48:00Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > When Obama tried to oust Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN said they would not attend if they went through with it. A great win for ~~journalism~~ propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1804 "2025-02-26T08:16:29Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > One of my Facebook “friends” is a MAGAt and occasionally posts pro-Trump crap like this: > > > I don’t know how long it will take for the “other side” to understand that Trump and his team are doing exactly what we elected them for. For the first time in many many years, someone is doing what is best for the USA. As a whole. Everyone. This includes you too. Like it or not. Quit whining. > > I’m waiting for one of Trump’s policies to bite him in the ass and see what his reaction is _Them_, not _him_. This is a post I’ve seen a number of times from magaflatearthers. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1805 "2025-02-26T09:38:39Z")
Fortunately for my (alleged) sanity his person is the only MAGAt who shows up on my FB feed. He’s involved in an organization I belong to, which is the only reason I haven’t unfriended him. The rest of my friends and family are intelligent people, and I see a lot of anti-Trump and anti-Musk posts. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1806 "2025-02-26T11:31:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@LurkMeister](#): > > > > One of my Facebook “friends” is a MAGAt and occasionally posts pro-Trump crap like this: > > > > > I don’t know how long it will take for the “other side” to understand that Trump and his team are doing exactly what we elected them for. For the first time in many many years, someone is doing what is best for the USA. As a whole. Everyone. This includes you too. Like it or not. Quit whining. > > > > I’m waiting for one of Trump’s policies to bite him in the ass and see what his reaction is > > _Them_, not _him_. This is a post I’ve seen a number of times from magaflatearthers. Wow. We must know the same person because that’s an exact quote from someone on another forum I frequent. Who seemed genuinely puzzled at the pushback from the forum because why _wouldn’t_ everyone automatically agree with him? I’ll just note that that particular forum is far more conservative/right-wing/Christian than this one. I guess he thought he’d get automatic buy-in and agreement. If this was a just world these asshats would get their comeuppance without the rest of us suffering. But we don’t live in that world. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1807 "2025-02-27T13:45:35Z")
So I’ve discovered something that really pisses the Trumpers off: In 2024, Biden was deporting an average of 57,000 / month. Trump, in his first month, is way behind that number. That’s why initially they were giving daily updates, and have now stopped. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1808 "2025-02-27T14:01:35Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > In 2024, Biden was deporting an average of 57,000 / month. Trump, in his first month, is way behind that number. That’s why initially they were giving daily updates, and have now stopped. To be fair, they’re running out of school buses filled with children. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1809 "2025-02-27T16:12:34Z")
> **[German Band Drops Off U.S. Fest Due to Trump Administration, Statement Released](https://loudwire.com/iron-savior-drops-off-progpower-usa-fest-trump-administration-statement-released/)** > > Sharing future safety concerns brought about by the Trump administration, German rockers Iron Savior bowed out of the 2025 ProgPower USA Festival. > Dear ppusa community, > > with the heaviest heart we have decided that we cannot travel to Atlanta this year. The reason is as simple as omnipresent: the new Trump administration and their new world order. Trump/Vance/Musk are tearing down everything what has been build up since ww2. They rewrite history and turn around the victim-aggressor role denying that Ukraine has been invaded by Putin with 150.000 soldiers, they call Ukraine’s president a dictator who doesn’t uphold election even though they know that elections are forbidden in Ukraine during war by their constitution, they send Vance over here telling us to start collaborating with the AfD Nazi party here in Germany, they spit on the truth and think freedom of speech means license to lie and to insult. Obviously they are about to destabilize the western world order so they can rewrite it to their needs, to make even more money. > > We are deeply worried about this and simply do not feel safe and welcome anymore in your country. Of course we know that only 50% of the voters voted for Trump and that 50% didn’t vote at all. We feel extremely sorry for those of you who think the same, but at this point we can’t foresee what will happen in the next months. Maybe things will calm down and your admin will somehow get back to their senses. Or will they proclaim the American-Russian federation? All is possible and this scares the hell out of us. > > We hope to return to Atlanta some other time in a better world like now. I hope you can understand and accept our decision. > > All the best > > Iron Savior Apparently, they’ve disappointed some Trump-loving fans. From an [MSNBC slideshow](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/90s-rock-band-slammed-for-pulling-out-of-music-festival-due-to-trump/ss-AA1zQ3aA): > ‘Quite possibly the most pathetic reason for a show cancellation, Trump supporter or not,’ one comment read. ‘This post should be studied for Trump derangement syndrome purposes. I seriously can’t believe what I just read. Lmao!’ > > Another read: ‘What in the conspiracy theory [expletive] it is this?’ ‘You guys must be watching way too much government sponsored mainstream media outlets,’ read another. ‘Hard to believe a metal band could make a [expletive] determination on where to play just based on what leader is within the White House. Germany’s leadership is what you should be worried about. This statement is pathetic.’ Another comment in agreeance said: ‘Why the hell would any of you feel unsafe here? Makes no sense. You’ve played 9 shows in freaking Russia, get real.’ … > > One response from an angry fan simply said: ‘Losers.’ ‘Never thought I’d see the day when a metal band would go full [expletive]. Yet… here we are,’ wrote another. ‘All because of Donald Trump… Jesus Christ,’ added another. ‘Why don’t you do the show for your fans? That’s pretty pathetic.’ A fourth said: ‘Y’all are clowns. Your government is putting people in prison for mean comments online. I hope it’s worth losing fans over your limp wristed political views.’ … Well, boo-effin-hoo. You’re mad because a German metal band, who you probably think is as fascist as you are, turns out to be intelligent supporters of truth and freedom. If you’re naughty, your treats will be taken away. You’ve been very naughty. You’ll just have to listen to Ted Nugent. ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1810 "2025-02-27T16:32:10Z")
If you have a WaPo subscription, _“She hoped Trump’s victory would change her life, but not like this”_ is a story on today’s front page. It’s a long, long story, but here’s the gist. A young woman, living in some God-awful Michigan town, was employed with the US Forest Service. She was fired by DOGE. So she lost her job and her health insurance. She voted for Trump because she wanted to be a mother and Trump had promised that IVF would be free if he were elected. To her dismay, she discovered that he’d **LIED!** So thanks to her vote, she lost her job, her health insurance, and the only way she was likely to be able to have a child. Oh the humanity! But get this: She said she stood in the voting booth for 15 minutes deciding who to vote for. **15 minutes!** I’m a kindhearted person. Sometimes too kindhearted. I take no pleasure in it, but I find it hard to muster any sympathy for someone so willfully ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1811 "2025-02-27T16:46:36Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > But get this: She said she stood in the voting booth for 15 minutes deciding who to vote for. **15 minutes!** I suppose the bright side of this story is that these people could just as easily vote for a democrat for no good reason. But if 15 minutes of contemplation isn’t enough to be certain that Trump is a disaster, then I don’t know what to say ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1812 "2025-02-27T16:53:51Z")
If somebody voted for Trump as far as I’m concerned they’ll never deserve sympathy for anything, ever again. They effectively decided to declare war on humanity, and I’m not all that concerned as to _why._ ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1813 "2025-02-27T17:00:51Z")
I’d almost be willing to cut a little slack for someone who voted for Trump but now truly regrets it and all that Trump stands for. Sadly, I haven’t seen any evidence that such a person exists. What I’ve seen is people who are sad/mad because they are affected, but when asked about their overall beliefs they’ll still say that Trump is their god/king and they’d vote for him again. They don’t give a shit that other people are affected. To them I give a hearty “fuck you” and hope you get all the badness that you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1814 "2025-02-27T17:07:08Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > I’d almost be willing to cut a little slack for someone who voted for Trump but now truly regrets it and all that Trump stands for. Sadly, I haven’t seen any evidence that such a person exists. Given that he was _already_ a disastrously bad President once, and made a point of how flaunting how awful he is I’m extremely skeptical of that as well. I think that most so-called low information voters are just lying because they don’t want to admit they _want_ fascism, and the rest are so detached from reality that they have no idea that Trump’s behavior screwed them over and never will. People don’t learn from their mistakes if they are so oblivious that they never recognize they made a mistake at all. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1815 "2025-02-27T18:02:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I think that most so-called low information voters are just lying because they don’t want to admit they _want_ fascism, and the rest are so detached from reality that they have no idea that Trump’s behavior screwed them over and never will. People don’t learn from their mistakes if they are so oblivious that they never recognize they made a mistake at all. For a lot of MAGA, Trump and the entire movement is a part of their core identity. While I voted Republican until 2016, being a Republican wasn’t a part of my core identity, so it wasn’t that difficult for me to see that Trump would make for a poor president. Though I certainly didn’t realize to what depths the man could sink to. Voting for Hillary didn’t make me a pariah among my friends or violate any core beliefs I had about myself. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1816 "2025-02-27T18:05:55Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > But if 15 minutes of contemplation isn’t enough to be certain that Trump is a disaster, then I don’t know what to say Doesn’t that kind of inherently presuppose that the 15 minutes in the booth represents _all_ the time she _ever_ spent thinking about who to vote for in 2024? Meaning: she could easily have grappled with this question for weeks or months :shudder: ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1817 "2025-02-27T18:17:22Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > If you have a WaPo subscription, _“She hoped Trump’s victory would change her life, but not like this”_ is a story on today’s front page. From the article (woman’s Facebook friends’ posts): > “Any government employee who is afraid of transparency,” wrote the man who taught her AP government class in high school, “is a criminal!” Now, would that include Donald Trump? Hiding White House visitor logs and meeting with Putin without any other US personnel present are the first things that came to mind. There’s a whole list. Granted, Trump is pretty transparent about his motives for doing many things: greed, self-benefit, revenge, stupidity, pettiness, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1818 "2025-02-27T18:27:34Z")
Let’s see, six bankruptcies, cheated on all wives, denied Covid being a problem, owes millions for a rape charge because he can’t shut his mouth… That only took about 15 seconds to think of. But, hey, free IVF?? Sure thing. He’s qualified. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1819 "2025-02-27T18:34:03Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > But, hey, free IVF?? So obviously a lie too. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1820 "2025-02-27T18:52:22Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Mayor Chad “No Face” Alcox speaks. > > ['Crippling our future!' MAGA mayor turns on Trump amid​ whispers of mass purge](https://www.rawstory.com/tinker-air-force-base/) A lot of MAGA types are going to be losing face in the coming months, unless they try to save face by doing an about-face, like this mayor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=92)