# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 92
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1821 "2025-02-27T19:23:38Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > I take no pleasure in it, but I find it hard to muster any sympathy for someone so willfully ignorant. I’ve read several articles where farmers and others that voted from Trump are saying he is hurting them but would still vote for him again (morons). I can’t read the article…does she also say she would vote for him again or is there finally an example of someone regretting and saying they wouldn’t vote for him again? ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1822 "2025-02-27T19:44:19Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > I’m a kindhearted person. Sometimes too kindhearted. I take no pleasure in it, but I find it hard to muster any sympathy for someone so willfully ignorant. After reading the article, I don’t think she is willfully ignorant. She is young (24) and grew up with Trump-supporting (and, at least in some cases, deeply misogynistic) family, teachers, and neighbors. While she is college-educated, she appears to have been a first-generation student, and it’s not clear whether she’s ever lived or traveled outside of rural Michigan. This is someone with limited life experience and a very, very different epistemological universe than an upper-middle class person from a big city would have, even if they were the same age. I don’t mean to let her off the hook completely – she clearly was aware of, and troubled by, Trump’s behavior toward women and voted for him anyway – but honestly, it’s pretty normal for people her age to take most of their information and cues about what to believe from their family and friends. The ones who do serious research about political candidates instead of going by received opinion are the exception, not the rule. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1823 "2025-02-27T19:52:02Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > I’d almost be willing to cut a little slack for someone who voted for Trump but now truly regrets it and all that Trump stands for. I’m not. They fucked us for four years. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1824 "2025-02-27T20:13:34Z")
On NPR they were interviewing some muslim from MI about that stupid Gaza video. He said he voted for Trump, but is now having second thoughts. Fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1825 "2025-02-27T20:17:38Z")
I heard that. I found myself yelling at the radio. I mean, when you dig into the comments section of the super-MAGA sites, they openly talk about how all Muslims are evil, and cheer the idea of Israeli ethnic cleansing [I want to be clear I’m not accusing Israel of that, I know this isn’t the place- I’m saying they WANT Israel to do it] ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1826 "2025-02-27T20:48:52Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > She is young (24) and grew up with Trump-supporting (and, at least in some cases, deeply misogynistic) family, teachers, and neighbors. As has often been pointed out, Trump got to the White House eight years ago, was running two years before that, and was making noise about running four years before _that_. This woman was ten when he first really came on the national political scene; she’s never known a political climate in which his spray-tanned mug wasn’t in it. For a lot of younger voters, as far as they understand it, he’s A Politician and they don’t have a full grasp of what a deviation (deviant?) he is, and how This Is Not Flippin’ Normal. For all she knows, everyone running for POTUS is typically an addled-brained octogenarian, or a smart woman of color that is ragged on constantly by the adults in her life and the “news” network they’re glued to. Once again: not excusing her. And until the tariffs that are supposed to come into effect next week kick my country’s economy in the solar plexus and I’ve got bigger things to worry about, I also have next to no sympathy for this dingbat or her asshole civics teacher, and I hope they both get shock doctrined into facing reality. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1827 "2025-02-27T21:43:50Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > But, hey, free IVF?? It’s Hobson’s Choice: she has to use Elon’s sperm \ ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1828 "2025-02-28T01:21:45Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > [@Procrustus](#): > > > > But if 15 minutes of contemplation isn’t enough to be certain that Trump is a disaster, then I don’t know what to say > > Doesn’t that kind of inherently presuppose that the 15 minutes in the booth represents _all_ the time she _ever_ spent thinking about who to vote for in 2024? > > Meaning: she could easily have grappled with this question for weeks or months :shudder: No. She knew who she was voting for when she stepped into that voting booth. She’s had the better part of a decade to make up her mind. And she did. Those fifteen minutes in the voting booth? That was just for her to try and convince herself that she could vote for Trump and still be a good person. Well, she was wrong about that, too, but she probably _still_ doesn’t realize it. And I suspect never will. Trump voters are masters in self-deception, even if the rest of us can see right through their self-serving justifications. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1829 "2025-02-28T03:15:28Z")
On the question of sympathy… I don’t enjoy seeing _anyone_ suffer. And additionally lots of people didn’t vote for Trump, and probably many who voted for Trump were just badly misinformed. A lot of individuals don’t deserve to suffer. But…I really think it’s for the best long term if this administration is a car crash into a tire fire. It’s necessary medicine. I’m seeing several talking heads saying that Democrats need to listen to the concerns of Trump voters and have good policy solutions for them. _Fuck that_ – that’s what Dems did last time, and every time, and all it does it let the ratchet of stupidity continue. (Plus I’ve heard a few say the left got “baited” on issues like trans when taking the bait apparently means just treating people like humans). This time, nah, I’m going to call a spade a dumbshit, and honestly I think some straight talk from Dems wouldn’t hurt (not advocating they use actual expletives though). > [@solost](#): > > A lot of MAGA types are going to be losing face in the coming months, unless they try to save face by doing an about-face, like this mayor. There will be different levels of about-face. State representatives and government need to think of their own ass, so need to at least _claim_ to be pushing back against policies that hurt the state. That’s not the same thing as turning away from MAGA it’s just normal political calculus. Actually that’s probably an interesting thing happening behind the scenes. All these self-serving MAGA politicians will be saying “Great idea with all these cuts! Down with government waste! But can my state be an exception?” and the problem will be _every_ (red) state will be saying that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1830 "2025-02-28T03:29:08Z")
I wonder which Republican is going to have to give the Secret Speech once Trump finally has a stroke on the toilet. > **[On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Cult_of_Personality_and_Its_Consequences)** > > On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences (Russian: «О культе личности и его последствиях», romanized: “O kul'te lichnosti i yego posledstviyakh”) was a report by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, made to the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union on 25 February 1956. Popularly known as the Secret Speech (Russian: секретный доклад Хрущёва, romanized: sekretnïy doklad Khrushcheva), this is something of a misnomer ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1831 "2025-02-28T03:34:31Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I don’t enjoy seeing _anyone_ suffer. And additionally lots of people didn’t vote for Trump, and probably many who voted for Trump were just badly misinformed. A lot of individuals don’t deserve to suffer. What really stops me from enjoying their suffering is knowing others who don’t deserve it are suffering alongside them. While I have a quantum of sympathy for these Trump supporters who are suddenly finding bite marks where their faces used to be, it’s with the realization that they brought this on themselves. Any reasonable person could have seen what was going to happen if Trump were elected in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1832 "2025-02-28T04:34:52Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > If you have a WaPo subscription, _“She hoped Trump’s victory would change her life, but not like this”_ is a story on today’s front page. It’s available as a non-paywalled MSN repost: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she-hoped-trump-s-victory-would-change-her-life-but-not-like-this/ar-AA1zTXAI](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/she-hoped-trump-s-victory-would-change-her-life-but-not-like-this/ar-AA1zTXAI) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1833 "2025-02-28T09:25:14Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > They fucked us for four years my, but aren’t you the optimist ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1834 "2025-02-28T10:43:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > You’re mad because a German metal band, who you probably think is as fascist as you are, turns out to be intelligent supporters of truth and freedom. Haben Sie gehört das Deutsches band? No you haven’t. Ha ha. > [@Fugazi](#): > > To them I give a hearty “fuck you” and hope you get all the badness that you deserve. There are a number of t-shirts available with various designs emblazoned with the phrase “Have the day you voted for”. I am considering the options… ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1835 "2025-02-28T14:26:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, boo-effin-hoo. You’re mad because a German metal band, who you probably think is as fascist as you are, turns out to be intelligent supporters of truth and freedom. If you’re naughty, your treats will be taken away. You’ve been very naughty. You’ll just have to listen to Ted Nugent. These are the same people who often ask when Rage Against the Machine got so political. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1836 "2025-02-28T14:29:22Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Haben Sie gehört das Deutsches band? No you haven’t. Ha ha. They sound like typical Heavy Metal. ‘Act like a warrior,’ ‘Turn up the music,’ ‘Purify your mind’… the sort of things that are attractive to a certain demographic. And then their Trump-supporting fans find out they don’t _really_ want everyone to become warriors, and they don’t _really_ want Trump to take over the world. > [@Maus\_Magill](#): > > These are the same people who often ask when Rage Against the Machine got so political. Indeed! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1837 "2025-02-28T15:42:40Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I don’t enjoy seeing _anyone_ suffer. Everyone’s death diminishes us. I believe that. Life is short, making it shorter is wrong. Given that, if some trumper dies because their medicare got cut, well, two seconds later I’m moving on. My field of fucks lies barren. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1838 "2025-02-28T15:55:59Z")
Why aren’t Democrats hammering the lack of tax exemptions for tips and overtime? Don’t get me wrong- those were always dumb policies. But I’d bet that Trump voters are more likely to be hourly employees. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1839 "2025-02-28T16:18:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > They sound like typical Heavy Metal. ‘Act like a warrior,’ ‘Turn up the music,’ ‘Purify your mind’… the sort of things that are attractive to a certain demographic. Uh, what? I can think of a couple of bands that say ‘act like a warrior’ and most of those are tunge in cheek. I will admit we do like to turn up the music though, but I have no idea what ‘purify your mind’ means in regards to metal. As for Iron Savior, their music is almost all sci-fi type lyrics, their whole [first album](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Savior_(album)) is about a space ship that has connections to Atlantis. I’d say most metal heads are liberal, at least a lot that I know are. I would be upset if I wanted to go to the show and they canceled, but at least I would understand it. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1840 "2025-02-28T16:23:10Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Why aren’t Democrats hammering the lack of tax exemptions for tips and overtime? Given all of the amazingly insane shit that’s happened in the last five weeks, that item is probably pretty low on the list of things that the Democrats are trying to talk about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=91) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=93)