# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1961 "2025-03-06T21:46:16Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Scott Bessent says “The American Dream is not about access to cheap goods.” Oh, then I guess Scott Bessent can quit bothering about [that “affordability czar” position he was planning to create in the Treasury Department as recently as last Sunday](https://www.facebook.com/CBSNews/posts/treasury-secretary-scott-bessent-announced-on-face-the-nation-sunday-that-his-de/1037319244926586/)? Since affordability of goods is apparently no longer a thing that Americans should be worrying about? Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1962 "2025-03-06T22:31:13Z")
It’s much easier to succeed if you declare your new job’s goal to be unattainable before you begin. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1963 "2025-03-06T22:50:55Z")
Scott Pruitt immediately came to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1964 "2025-03-06T22:58:08Z")
[![](https://hownottobeanassholenet.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/le.gif) ](https://hownottobeanassholenet.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/le.gif) ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1965 "2025-03-07T15:34:31Z")
> **[‘Just following Hispanic people': Citizen detained by ICE questions vote for...](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/just-following-hispanic-people-citizen-detained-by-ice-questions-vote-for-trump/3861172/)** > > A naturalized Hispanic man says he was detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who were looking for another person on a deportation order, and now the man is questioning his vote for President Donald Trump. Jensy Machado said he is a... Am I an asshole because this made me happy? ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1966 "2025-03-07T15:36:48Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Am I an asshole because this made me happy? Yes. Please fill out a name tag and take a seat at the table. There’s plenty of room. We wear funny hats on Tuesdays. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1967 "2025-03-07T15:50:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I think that is an actual straw man argument. Very good. 👏 ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1968 "2025-03-07T16:09:51Z")
It fills me with despair. The fucking idiot is only “questioning” his vote for Trump. Despite seeing it over and over again, I just don’t get it. Sure, I actually believe in most of the things the Democrats stand for, but I can see someone not doing so. But to so disagree with Democrats that you’re willing to destroy your own life. Nope, can’t wrap my head around it. If the Democrats had something in their platform that would likely destroy my life, I wouldn’t vote for them. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1969 "2025-03-07T16:12:47Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > If the Democrats had something in their platform that would likely destroy my life, I wouldn’t vote for them. A la Casey Jones, I might if it meant saving the lives of (say) thousands of people, by doing so. But I take your point. (I just wanted to reiterate that lack of empathy is THE sign of a Trumper). ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1970 "2025-03-07T16:16:42Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > If the Democrats had something in their platform that would likely destroy my life, I wouldn’t vote for them. Here’s the thing. In the picture of the Democrats that is painted by RW propaganda, that is _exactly_ what the D’s stand for: destroying the lives of all ordinary hard-working honest (White) Americans. While trump & the Rs stand for defending all they hold dear. The problem is not that your typical trumpist voted against their actual interests. Although they certainly did so. The problem was (and still is, and will continue to be for decades) that they were/are so thoroughly bamboozled that they had no idea what the reality of either party’s plans were. They’re so drunk on the RW Kool Aid they can’t tell right from wrong or up from down. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1971 "2025-03-07T16:19:35Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Here’s the thing. In the picture of the Democrats that is painted by RW propaganda, that is _exactly_ what the D’s stand for: destroying the lives of all ordinary hard-working honest (White) Americans. While trump & the Rs stand for defending all they hold dear. That’s probably where my despair comes from. There just seems to be no way to overcome this. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1972 "2025-03-07T16:25:19Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > The fucking idiot is only “questioning” his vote for Trump. What will it take for these folks to actually say they wouldn’t vote again for Trump? Being sent to Guantanamo? Nah, he’d probably just furrow his brow and somehow blame Biden. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1973 "2025-03-07T16:31:48Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > That’s probably where my despair comes from. There just seems to be no way to overcome this. It’s called ungoverning, it’s the process by which the administrative state is dismantled to create chaos and foment violence and then use the violence and chaos as an excuse to exert authoritarian control. > **[Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos...](https://pres-outlook.org/2025/02/ungoverning-the-attack-on-the-administrative-state-and-the-politics-of-chaos/)** > > "Ungoverning" makes a compelling case that undermining America’s systems may make a national government so weak that no party can govern. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1974 "2025-03-07T16:35:01Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The problem was (and still is, and will continue to be for decades) that they were/are so thoroughly bamboozled that they had no idea what the reality of either party’s plans were. They’re so drunk on the RW Kool Aid they can’t tell right from wrong or up from down. Yeah. I know a guy who watches RW media (and _Cops_) during what seems all his free time. He’s crowing constantly about the Trump “Golden Age” that’s upon us. He’s seems like a familar Trump voter in that he’s an older (in his 60’s), white guy with only a high school education. He also doesn’t have much of a personal retirement plan from his blue collar work history and has SNAP and Medicaid benefits. Despite being almost exactly the type of person who’s going to get screwed by Trump, he doesn’t see it and goes on and on about how Trump is going to Make America Great (and Healthy) Again, own those criminal and corrupt libs, and save the country from Chinese World Domination. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1975 "2025-03-07T16:35:45Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Nah, he’d probably just furrow his brow and somehow blame Biden. Joined by that special type of leftist that would make the point that ‘Biden could have shut Guantanamo down, so we should blame Biden for this first!’ ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1976 "2025-03-07T16:36:13Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > What will it take for these folks to actually say they wouldn’t vote again for Trump? Being sent to Guantanamo? Nah, he’d probably just furrow his brow and somehow blame Biden. It will take a critical percentage of their fellow Trump supporters turning against him. For many of these people, turning against Trump means turning against friends and family. They risk becoming a pariah and that’s tough to do. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1977 "2025-03-07T16:44:04Z")
Very true. Until then, Trump will kick them squarely in the nuts and with tears in their eyes they’ll say “thank you sir, may I have another!” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1978 "2025-03-07T17:43:33Z")
Until they each personally suffer some crippling consequence of trumpism they will continue to spew the party line. it’s only when they and nearly everyone around them has been most surely, directly, and undeniably screwed that they will begin to wake up. Even Goebbels, the patron saint of fantasy propaganda, could not keep most of the German citizens on-side after several years of privation, death of their family members, and the constant slow rain of allied bombardment had raised questions in the minds of the followers. But it took that much of a wake-up call to get through to people. Some of whom were still cheering the Nazis on when word filtered out that Hitler was dead and the war was over. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1979 "2025-03-07T17:48:33Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Some of whom were still cheering the Nazis on when word filtered out that Hitler was dead and the war was over. Insert the thing about sparrows and curtain rods here. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/1980 "2025-03-07T18:03:53Z")
Someone I know bought two Icryo franchises. Big Trump guy, decided to mock me on Facebook. So I did a financial review of his franchise (it’s not good… not horrible, but not good), put it on my YouTube channel, sent him a link, got blocked, life is good because while I might be stupid, at least _I’m_ not the one 7-figures in debt because I purchased a 10yr indentured servitude contract which has a _Spousal Liability_ clause all to ‘buy’ a business in which I have zero equity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=100)