# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4243 "2025-08-20T00:57:46Z")

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This hijack needs to be taken elsewhere.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Not to speak for others but I don’t think it was so much the leaving the US that bugged people it was the leaving the US and then hoping the whole thing and everyone left behind collapsed in chaos and misery after they closed the door on the way out. Since you didn’t do that you’re off the hook.

Cervaise also doesn’t engage in [militant doomerism](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-most-pernicious-anticipatory-obedience-hides-in-plain-sight/sharetoken/a0a41c8f-d6f5-490e-8a95-eb3da8c85331): his actions stem from a deliberate risk assessment. Others in contrast act as follows, especially on twitter-X:

> During harrowing times some people become overwhelmed and even lose hope. It’s not a one-way progress. Almost everyone has their moments. But there’s a particular kind of militant doomerism afoot at the moment. Any discussions of next steps in the battle against Trumpism or the preservation of civic democracy, any suggestions or strategies, are met with a chorus of, “don’t you get how it worked under Hitler and Stalin!!?!” Or “don’t you know rules don’t matter to Donald Trump!?!?!”

> In a sense, it’s a dialog genetically related to [what I called “competitive hyperbole”](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-aftermath-of-competitive-hyperbole) two days ago. Strategies for the future or even the assumption that there will be a future get shouted down as a hopeless naiveté. And at least within that stream of conversation — which I’m certainly not saying is dominant, but it is there — it leads to the same escalating declarations of dystopia and totalism.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Please answer my three questions:
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> 1. what am I supposed to be fighting for?
> 2. How am I supposed to fight?
> 3. and what are you doing to fight?

@Czarcasm already answered Q1. I’m skipping Q2. During the 2020 and 2024 elections, I text banked against Trump, sometimes to the point of causing multiple month inflamation issues. But so what? My grandfather left a thriving law practice to fight the Axis. I’ve also researched best ways of financially fighting MAGA (see [bluetent.us](http://bluetent.us)) and have boosted my charitable setaside by a multiple. Again, so what? It isn’t bankrupting me and I’m not quite pledging my life and fortune. Sacred honor, maybe. Over here, I’ve started this thread: [Fighting for the American Democratic Experiment and Against Trump: Practical Steps and Best Practices](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fighting-for-the-american-democratic-experiment-and-against-trump-practical-steps-and-best-practices/1013687)

When I thought protest would nudge the needle, I protested. [Trump’s parade flopped. No Kings Day was a hit.](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trumps-parade-flopped-no-kings-day) When I thought the Dems needed a nudge, I nudged my elected reps. I read Indivisible’s Guide to fighting Trump. I recommend it, as it is written by former Congressional staffers.

[https://indivisible.org/](https://indivisible.org/)

And I’ve been mulling about discussing the benefits of supporting Democratic moderates here. Work in progress.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I stand guard against ICE at a local church that caters to minorities every Sunday, ready to bolt the doors and call 911 and local media at a second’s notice.

This is awesome.

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