# Surprising Career Arcs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 2, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958 "2012-07-02T02:08:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/21 "2012-07-02T15:09:09Z")

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The Elephant Man made that one great film and then I never saw him again.

Travolta’s career looked un-salvageable after ‘Look Who’s Talking Now’ and then along comes Vincent.

De Niro’s move into comedy was pretty unexpected.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/22 "2012-07-02T15:13:44Z")

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Neil Patrick Harris. From Doogie Howser to minor film roles to amazing song-and-dance man to a minor role on How I Met Your Mother that just took over the whole show.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/23 "2012-07-02T15:47:28Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Shatner was a Shakespearean actor. As was Avery Brooks.

I remember reading, back when _The Dukes of Hazard_ was popular, that Sorrel Brooke, who played Boss Hogg, was a classically trained Shakespearean actor. I remember expressing surprise at this to my dad, who shrugged and said, “what would you do? Turn down a role making lots of money on a popular TV series?” Early lesson in perspective for little Ellen.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/24 "2012-07-02T15:53:32Z")

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Michael Chiklis – doughy frumpy friendly Tony Scaliain _The Commish_ to Tough, bald, badass Vic Mackey on _The Shield_ to Ben Grimm, The Thing in _Fantastic Four_ (He was reportedly the only cast member who actually used to read the comic). then sorta back to his Commish rooys on _No Ordinary Family_.

Shelley Winters – uderappreciated actress to sexpot beauty, who later gained a lot of weight and played a varirety of roles, seriousd and comic. When I first saw her she was in the “heavy” stage, and I didn’t even know about the first part of her career.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/25 "2012-07-02T16:02:17Z")

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Will Smith - from rapper to minor TV star to major film star and two-time Oscar nominee.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/26 "2012-07-02T16:04:39Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> Bryan Cranston - from sitcoms (Seinfeld, Malcolm in the Middle) straight to serious drama (Breaking Bad).

I came in here to add Bryan Cranston as well. He’s good in everything I’ve ever seen him in.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/27 "2012-07-02T16:09:13Z")

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Woody Harrillson is probably one of the most diverse actors out there, but I still always think of him as Woody from Cheers.  
Justin Timberlake - From N Synch to one of the funniest reoccuring guests on SNL and a couple of decent films under his belt. And he still has a pretty successful solo music career.  
James Franco - He litterally does everything.

> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Ryan Gosling -from Mouseketeer to Lover Boy to Indie Darling to Badass Hunk.

Don’t forget Young Hercules.

> [@Scumpup](#):
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> In his case, a constant level of personal assholery seems to have been maintained throughout.

Is Mark Wahlburg known for being an asshole?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/28 "2012-07-02T16:46:05Z")

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> [@JustinC](#):
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> The Elephant Man made that one great film and then I never saw him again.

Okay, is this a whoosh? John Hurt played the Elephant Man and he’s had an active career both before and after that movie.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/29 "2012-07-02T16:49:45Z")

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I’m surprised Chris Isaak wasn’t a bigger deal than he was in the 90s. Writing follow-up hits is ridiculously difficult, but I would’ve figured him for a big time leading man.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/30 "2012-07-02T16:53:19Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Is Mark Wahlburg known for being an asshole?

Here’s [today’s d-bag move](http://www.giants101.com/2012/07/02/mark-wahlberg-banned-from-watching-football-at-home-following-super-bowl-xlvi-meltdown/)\* (that I personally love).

\*Well, the move was a few months ago – the reporting was today.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/31 "2012-07-02T16:56:41Z")

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Vince Vaughn - Played bad guys early in his career and now plays lead roles in comedies.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/32 "2012-07-02T18:16:11Z")

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Lots of athletes fit the bill, but the most interesting for me was Alex Karras. First round pick defensive tackle played 12 seasons for the Lions, then later starred in… **Webster**. 😕

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/33 "2012-07-02T18:45:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Okay, is this a whoosh?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/34 "2012-07-02T18:55:30Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Shatner was a Shakespearean actor. As was Avery Brooks.

Cite? Acting in a Shakespeare play does not make one “a Shakespearean actor” in the sense that Patrick Stewart is: he was a member of the [Royal Shakespeare Company](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actors_in_Royal_Shakespeare_Company_productions).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/35 "2012-07-02T19:29:09Z")

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Going back a long way: Fred MacMurray was well-known for film _noir_ roles, particularly _Double Indemnity_, but also made a lot of light comedy. He then went on to make amusing Disney fare and ended up as Stephen Douglas on _My Three Sons_. To see him now in a film _noir_ role is jarring.

James Cagney started out in Vaudeville, and was best known for his gangster roles in movies. But he successfully moved on to great movies like _Yankee Doodle Dandy_ (Academy Award), _Mr. Roberts_, and _Man of a Thousand Faces_, and even did a bit of television work. He was so good at being a gangster that it’s surprising that he could break free of the type-casting.

Lucile Ball went from serious movie roles to being the prat-falling ditz of TV fame.

And speaking of Marky-Mark, there’s also Elvis, who turned out to be a surprisingly competent actor.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/36 "2012-07-02T19:34:57Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> I’m surprised Chris Isaak wasn’t a bigger deal than he was in the 90s. Writing follow-up hits is ridiculously difficult, but I would’ve figured him for a big time leading man.

He’s looking quite craggy these days, so maybe a character actor now. I saw him recently on a British cookery show, and he was hilarious, improvising comic songs about food. Seemed like a top bloke.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/37 "2012-07-02T19:49:59Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Lots of athletes fit the bill, but the most interesting for me was Alex Karras. First round pick defensive tackle played 12 seasons for the Lions, then later starred in… **Webster**. 😕

By way of the iconic role of Mongo in _Blazing Saddles_.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/38 "2012-07-02T22:46:56Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> By way of the iconic role of Mongo in _Blazing Saddles_.

I remember him on Carson one night with Tony Randall. Randall was a fussy guy at best, and asked Karras (while waving his hands in the air): “Would you mind smoking that cigar somewhere else?” Karras replied something along the lines of: “I’m 6’3 and weigh 325 pounds. I’ll smoke wherever the hell I please!”

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/39 "2012-07-02T23:22:42Z")

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Heh.

Another great role for Karas – Jim Garner’s gay bodyguard in _Victor/Victoria_.

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprising-career-arcs/626958/40 "2012-07-02T23:49:33Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> He’s looking quite craggy these days, so maybe a character actor now. I saw him recently on a British cookery show, and he was hilarious, improvising comic songs about food. Seemed like a top bloke.

I saw him do a small concert two years ago and he was entertaining as hell. I suspect he’s quite happy doing what he loves.

Back to the thread, I’ll nomonate Kurt Russell; from childhood Disney star to anti-hero in \*The Thing \*and \*Escape from New York \*then jumping around from action to comedy to action again.

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