# Surrender Dorothy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 14, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352 "2004-01-14T04:39:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/1 "2004-01-14T04:39:46Z")

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and your little dog, too!

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**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/2 "2004-01-14T04:51:06Z")

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Dorothy? Who’s Dorothy?

I know, lets go ask the wizard!

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/3 "2004-01-14T04:53:40Z")

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Target Acquired.

\<aims\>Water gun full of soapy water with lemon juice  
\<fires\>Water gun full of soapy water with lemon juice  
\<watches\>Witch dissolve into slimy puddles\</watches\>\</fires\>\</aims\>

\<reloads\>Water gun full of soapy water with lemon juice  
\<waits\>For next icky dirty wicked witch to fly by  
\<chortles gleefully\>

More fun than salting slugs! 😃

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/4 "2004-01-14T15:00:47Z")

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There’s a straightaway on the north side of the DC Beltway, outer loop (westbound), where the Mormon Temple is straight ahead of you for a mile or two. Other than it’s not emerald in color, it looks like Oz.

There’s an overpass across the Beltway along this stretch. For years, it used to bear the graffito, “Surrender Dorothy”.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/5 "2004-01-14T19:38:09Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> There’s a straightaway on the north side of the DC Beltway, outer loop (westbound), where the Mormon Temple is straight ahead of you for a mile or two. Other than it’s not emerald in color, it looks like Oz.
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> There’s an overpass across the Beltway along this stretch. For years, it used to bear the graffito, “Surrender Dorothy”.

It’s still sort of there. The words have been painted over, but if you know what you’re looking for, you can still see the “Surrender Dorothy”-shaped blotches. (it’s on the side a railway bridge, just west of the Georgia Ave. exit.)

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/6 "2004-01-14T20:31:08Z")

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I still yell ‘SURRENDER DOROTHY’ every time I drive past there.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/7 "2004-01-14T20:57:55Z")

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[Surrender Frenchy!](http://216.232.71.251/~larry/miscpics/surrender.jpg)

Don’t ask me why.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/8 "2004-01-14T21:05:53Z")

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Surrender, Dorothy = Give yourself up, Dorothy, and I’ll let your friends live.

Surrender Dorothy = Tinman, et al, give Dorothy up to save your own sorry hides! :eek:

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**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/9 "2004-01-15T16:11:05Z")

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Did anyone besides me think of the movie “After Hours” when reading the thread title?

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/10 "2004-01-15T18:39:40Z")

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> [@GrizzRich](#):
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> Did anyone besides me think of the movie “After Hours” when reading the thread title?

Nope. 😃

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**Author:** ![DaisyFace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@DaisyFace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaisyFace)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/11 "2004-01-15T18:50:45Z")

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Trust me, the Witch just had a bum rap. Read _Wicked_ by Gregory Maguire for further details (or if you’re in/near NY, go see the play - it’s amazing!). I’m off to listen to the soundtrack one more time…

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/12 "2004-01-15T20:07:07Z")

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Dammit, the Mormon Temple rail crossing was just what I was thinking of, too. I lived not 5 miles from there for a good chunk of nearly 20 years!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/13 "2004-01-15T20:55:30Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Dammit, the Mormon Temple rail crossing was just what I was thinking of, too. I lived not 5 miles from there for a good chunk of nearly 20 years!

I’d say you have to get up pretty early in the morning to stay ahead of me. Except you _do_ get up pretty early in the morning, and look how much good it does you!  
I know - that’s why you’re moving to Nowhere, Ohio. Sure, just leave all your friends hundreds of miles behind, simply because you want to have a chance to see your kids grow up. You call those _priorities_?? Geez.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/14 "2004-01-15T21:59:29Z")

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There used to be a band called Surrender Dorothy. I don’t know if they were just local Chicago or if they had a Big Contract. That’s all I got.

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/15 "2004-01-16T05:43:30Z")

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For those who don’t live in the DC area, [here’s the Mormom Temple](http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-52-0,00.html). The resemblance to Oz is even more striking when you see it from the Beltway, since it rises out of the greenery ahead of you. [Here’s a night shot from the Beltway](http://www.lofthouse.com/design/photo/above.html).

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/16 "2004-01-16T12:34:45Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’d say you have to get up pretty early in the morning to stay ahead of me. Except you _do_ get up pretty early in the morning, and look how much good it does you!  
> I know - that’s why you’re moving to Nowhere, Ohio. Sure, just leave all your friends hundreds of miles behind, simply because you want to have a chance to see your kids grow up. You call those _priorities_?? Geez.

You’re just bitter, RT.

You know you and Mrs Firefly really want to follow me to Marietta. Think how much fun we’d have together!

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2004, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surrender-dorothy/224352/17 "2004-01-16T12:45:43Z")

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> [@Early Out](#):
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> For those who don’t live in the DC area, [here’s the Mormom Temple](http://www.lds.org/temples/main/0,11204,1912-1-52-0,00.html). The resemblance to Oz is even more striking when you see it from the Beltway, since it rises out of the greenery ahead of you. [Here’s a night shot from the Beltway](http://www.lofthouse.com/design/photo/above.html).

EEK! Where are the flying monkeys? :eek:
