# Survivor 11/13 - why do I care? (Spoilers, but they'e coded) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018 "2003-11-13T13:30:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/61 "2003-11-15T03:13:58Z")
FWIW, The Wife and I think that Rupert’s tirade on Jon was under his control at all times. Standard behavioural conditioning / brainwashing technique. Make the target know that you are furious with him and then forgive him, allowing him to rejoin the family / tribe after a transgression. Rupert probably learned to do this when trying to reach his troubled teens. Rupert has a huge target painted on his back, but no one wants to be the one to first face him down. That is why they didn’t pile up the coconuts during this week’s IC. They need him to _not win_ immunity; they are afraid to _deny_ him immunity. Otherwise, I really wish he wins. He gives hope to all us pudgy hairy guys. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/62 "2003-11-15T06:29:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Avarie537 \* > \*\*FYI - he Pearl Islands are part of Panama. \*\* Yeah, but the logo even looked different. “Panama” was in yellow ALL CAPS, whereas the current logo has “Pearl Islands” in black italic script. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/63 "2003-11-15T12:44:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrFidelius \* > \*\*FWIW, The Wife and I think that Rupert’s tirade on Jon was under his control at all times. Standard behavioural conditioning / brainwashing technique. Make the target know that you are furious with him and then forgive him, allowing him to rejoin the family / tribe after a transgression. > > Rupert probably learned to do this when trying to reach his troubled teens. > \*\* I agree. It cracked me up when some people soured on Rupert for yelling at Jon like he’s some big, dumb oaf who flipped out and tried to intimidate Jon. Rupert is the savviest player in this Survivor and I don’t think he’s done anything on pure impulse. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/64 "2003-11-15T14:50:30Z")
Lissa said: > [@](#): > > Yeah, but the logo even looked different. “Panama” was in yellow ALL CAPS, whereas the current logo has “Pearl Islands” in black italic script. There hasn’t been a change in the logo. “Pearl Islands” is _inside_ the oval logo. “Panama” is _below_ the oval logo. This is the way it’s been since they revealed the logo at the finale from last season. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/65 "2003-11-15T15:07:02Z")
> [@](#): > > He gives hope to all us pudgy hairy guys. Like Ron Jeremy? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/66 "2003-11-15T18:17:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by David B \* > \*\*Lissa said: > > There hasn’t been a change in the logo. “Pearl Islands” is _inside_ the oval logo. “Panama” is _below_ the oval logo. This is the way it’s been since they revealed the logo at the finale from last season. \*\* I’m looking at the current logo on the CBS website right now. The one I saw looked very different than this one. Are they showing a different one from the one on their site during the commercial breaks? The one I saw for that brief moment had “PANAMA” inside the oval in big yellow letters, without any mention of “Pearl Islands.” I’m starting to feel like I must be going crazy. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/67 "2003-11-17T07:52:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rainbowthief \* > \*\*I agree. It cracked me up when some people soured on Rupert for yelling at Jon like he’s some big, dumb oaf who flipped out and tried to intimidate Jon. Rupert is the savviest player in this Survivor and I don’t think he’s done anything on pure impulse. \*\* and if no one objected to him stealing like a pirate, they shouldn’t in this case; since bullying his minions into following his orders and not going into open mutiny would conform to pirate culture. ---
**Author:** ![Synthesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Synthesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Synthesis)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/68 "2003-11-17T15:05:47Z")
For what is it worth. Next season is currently filiming right now in Pananama (once again). It will be an all-star season… …maybe you saw a logo for it mistakenly? ---
**Author:** ![Madawc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Madawc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madawc)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/69 "2003-11-18T06:11:54Z")
obo-mo-bo saxa-ma-phone tu-ba-ma-ba I guess homeritis has hit old **Synthesis** ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/70 "2003-11-18T13:09:23Z")
OK, it took me a while, but 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 , **Madawc** ---
**Author:** ![Synthesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Synthesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Synthesis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/71 "2003-11-18T17:21:57Z")
LOL. Funny! Yeah…I messed up the spelling of Panama. Even worse, I actually lived there for five years! ---
**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018/72 "2003-11-18T17:55:16Z")
**Lissa** , I saw the logo and noticed it as well. I thought it was odd. I was on the phone with my girlfriend and we both said, “PANAMA?” together. You’re not crazy! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-13-why-do-i-care-spoilers-but-theye-coded/213018.md?page=3)