# Survivor 11/20 "Nothing Tastes Better Than Five Hundred Dollars" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 21, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757 "2008-11-21T01:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/1 "2008-11-21T01:02:44Z")
Spoiler free first post. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/2 "2008-11-21T01:03:58Z")
Dude! They really played up Bob’s fake idol on the “Previously on…” This is going to be great! ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/3 "2008-11-21T01:59:03Z")
That was one of the most satisfying episodes in the entire history of the show. Right up there with Sue going postal on Richard Hatch. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/4 "2008-11-21T01:59:58Z")
OK, that tasted better than 500 dollars! ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/5 "2008-11-21T02:09:23Z")
CLASSIC. I want to marry Sugar. And make little Sugar Babies. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/6 "2008-11-21T02:12:13Z")
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha- _gasp_ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/7 "2008-11-21T02:13:20Z")
That. Was. AAAAAAWESOME!!! ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/8 "2008-11-21T02:13:32Z")
I’m now convinced that it’s the editing that made Sugar seem so air-headed in the early episodes… ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/9 "2008-11-21T02:14:02Z")
Between the evilly wicked vote out, the great Crystal voting speech, the switch from winking pre-vote slyness to post-vote Oh crap what just happened glaze, and the preview potential of Marcus’ 3 card monte-like idol resurrection that may have been the most satisfying 10 minutes of Survivor in years. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/10 "2008-11-21T02:19:09Z")
> [@rexnervous](#): > > I’m now convinced that it’s the editing that made Sugar seem so air-headed in the early episodes… Well, that and she actually said that was her strategy in the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/11 "2008-11-21T02:25:49Z")
So spoil me, already! It doesn’t start for another 90 minutes here, and I want to know what happens **now**! ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/12 "2008-11-21T02:29:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > So spoil me, already! It doesn’t start for another 90 minutes here, and I want to know what happens **now**! Nah, just view this episode as tantric sex. Let it build up for a good long while, because at the end it will be that much more worth it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/13 "2008-11-21T02:32:00Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > So spoil me, already! It doesn’t start for another 90 minutes here, and I want to know what happens **now**! Okay. First, Bob told Sugar about his fake idol. She was suitably impressed with his creativity. They had the usual auction. Randy won 3 of them, the last one for cookies for the tribe. He and Sugar had a little power game over the cookies. Bob went to Exile Island. When they got back to camp, Randy came up with a plan to act like an ass (even more so than he already was) and then get Bob (who they were SURE found the idol) to give him the HII. So Randy just irritated everyone in camp except Corrine and when Bob got back, Sugar convinced him to give Randy the fake idol. Which Bob did. Kenny won immunity. They went to TC, where Randy did his level best to paint a fluorescent target on his butt. They vote, Randy plays the fake idol, old Fang starts rolling on the floor giggling, Probst does his whole “HII rules” spiel, and then says, “This is…NOT an immunity idol!” It was a very Phil Keoganian pause before the “not”, actually. Then Randy had bitter, bitter parting words, and the preview made mention of the fact that when Marcus threw the idol at the feast into the ocean…he actually didn’t. He pocketed it and hid it at camp. And told Bob about it and where it was. Now, I don’t know if Marcus actually did this or if Bob is still working with Sugar, so I don’t know if there actually IS an HII at camp. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/14 "2008-11-21T02:35:49Z")
If Sugar doesn’t win the whole thing I will be very very shocked. And Crystal’s vote speech was one of the best of the entire series. Has anybody ever shouted that before? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/15 "2008-11-21T02:38:58Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > the preview made mention of the fact that when Marcus threw the idol at the feast into the ocean…he actually didn’t. He pocketed it and hid it at camp. And told Bob about it and where it was. I’m pretty sure this is Bob trying to say “I had no idea that was a fake idol!” Of course, I think Corrine is self absorbed enough to buy it. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/16 "2008-11-21T02:45:09Z")
Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/17 "2008-11-21T03:32:00Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I’m pretty sure this is Bob trying to say “I had no idea that was a fake idol!” > > Of course, I think Corrine is self absorbed enough to buy it. Aha! I hadn’t thought of that, but it makes a LOT of sense. Crystal was really funny while voting. I guess she thought, likely rightly, that Randy would never vote for her anyway, so why not. Either that, or she wasn’t thinking at all, which is possible too. I started out this season really disliking Sugar. A lot. Over the last several episodes I have really started to both respect the game she’s playing and enjoy her character. I was amused at the way she was shaking her head and trying not to openly laugh when she heard Crystal’s noisome vote. One other note, that was an immunity challenge that I fully expected Kenny to win. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/18 "2008-11-21T03:52:19Z")
My favorite recurring event to look for in each episode this season is Matty’s crazy high-pitched hyena laugh. He let out a little one during the immunity challenge this time. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/19 "2008-11-21T04:18:37Z")
As satisfying as this was I wonder why Bob told Sugar about the HII? What does that gain him? She isn’t in his alliance. Now he’s annoyed the others in his supposed alliance and helped vote out a guy who was already leaving. I don’t think was good strategy on his part. ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757/20 "2008-11-21T04:27:46Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > As satisfying as this was I wonder why Bob told Sugar about the HII? What does that gain him? She isn’t in his alliance. Now he’s annoyed the others in his supposed alliance and helped vote out a guy who was already leaving. I don’t think was good strategy on his part. His “supposed alliance” were two dead-men walking (Randy and Corrine). His only play was to try and ingratiate himself with a power player on the other alliance - at this point, probably Sugar or Kenny - so he chose wisely. IMHO it was his only strategy. Now barring unforeseen circumstances (power alliance breakup or Corrine winning immunity) he’s bought himself 6 days and a small level of trust. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-20-nothing-tastes-better-than-five-hundred-dollars/473757.md?page=2)