# Survivor:  11/30/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 1, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703 "2011-12-01T14:54:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/61 "2011-12-04T16:10:26Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Parvati used her idols to great effect in the All Star round. Of course, it didn’t hurt that she had 3 immunity idols (1 challenge immunity and 2 HIIs).

Yeah, she gave her HIIs away, which has been done before to success, but I’m talking about the regular immunity idols.

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**Author:** ![jacobsta811](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jacobsta811/32/2893_2.png) [@jacobsta811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacobsta811)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/62 "2011-12-04T17:27:01Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Speaking of this, has that ever been used to any decent effect? The only time I can even remember it happening was one that one guy gave up his idol and immediately got voted out.

Jenna gave hers to Heidi in the Amazon to keep Rob C honest in the vote against the Deaf girl - not that it made any difference since it appears Rob C was always planning to vote with Jenna & Heidi at that tribal.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/63 "2011-12-05T14:39:00Z")

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> [@PeskiPiksi](#):
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> I also think Cochran is looking ahead even further than final tribal council. I’m sure he’d love to win, of course, but I’m sure he’s realistic about his chances. I think what he’s looking for is long-term notoriety. He’s a Survivor fan…he knows that the ones who get asked back, or get cast on other reality shows, and achieve a B-List level of fame, are not necessarily the ones who win, but are the big personalities, or the ones who make the big moves, whether idiotic or brilliant. Those are the ones people remember.
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> Taken in that light, switching tribes like that was a no-lose option for him.

That’s plausible. It’s not like being a famewhore is a virtue, though, and if he does come back I may have to rethink my current position of being fine with returning players.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/64 "2011-12-05T18:26:19Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> That’s plausible. It’s not like being a famewhore is a virtue, though, and if he does come back I may have to rethink my current position of being fine with returning players.

You might as well start rethinking now, because I think he’s pretty much a lock on being in the next All-Star cast.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/65 "2011-12-05T18:28:19Z")

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> [@jacobsta811](#):
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> Jenna gave hers to Heidi in the Amazon to keep Rob C honest in the vote against the Deaf girl - not that it made any difference since it appears Rob C was always planning to vote with Jenna & Heidi at that tribal.

And that goofball guy gave his to the girls and they voted him out that night.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/66 "2011-12-05T19:13:54Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> That’s plausible. It’s not like being a famewhore is a virtue, though, and if he does come back I may have to rethink my current position of being fine with returning players.

I’d agree to watch Cochran on every season from now on if it meant they’d never bring Russell back again.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/67 "2011-12-05T19:58:44Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I’d agree to watch Cochran on every season from now on if it meant they’d never bring Russell back again.

I understand where you are coming from, but watching Cochran and Russell interact and deal with each other would be very interesting…

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/68 "2011-12-05T20:26:48Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> You mean give someone else immunity while keeping your own? That would be interesting. Definitely just as a one off, rather than a every challenge kind of thing.

> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> This interpretation would make more sense.

Yeah, sorry for being vague, I meant “give to someone else in addition to keep your own immunity.”

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-30-11/604703/69 "2011-12-05T22:30:01Z")

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BTW, I assume you all noticde they revived that “lazy black man” meme.

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