# Survivor 11/8 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 9, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758 "2007-11-09T06:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/21 "2007-11-09T16:34:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Amanda walks around the entire time with her butt hanging out so far they have to pixillate it They’re doing this so often, I’m starting to wonder if there’s another reason; perhaps Amanda has a big unwanted brand name on her shorts that the producers don’t want to show for legal reasons. All this pixelization is really really really out of annoying, I wish they’d stop. Not because I want to see Amanda’s behind (I do), but because it’s distracting and pulls me out of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/22 "2007-11-09T16:34:20Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Mama _and_ baby monkeys? And I _missed_ it? I hate my life so very, _very_ much. . [/QUOTE] And glow-in-the-dark bugs. Several varieties of those. Some of them only had glow-in-the-dark bits, and they were in odd places. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/23 "2007-11-09T16:36:55Z")
Or maybe her butt has been pixelated since birth. A tragic deformity. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/24 "2007-11-09T17:06:52Z")
[QUOTE=Lil’ Mahoney] While I realise that everyone hates J-R, both in the game and here too, I can’t believe how dumb these people (read: Todd) were to not vote out James while they had the chance. They had a great plan to blindside the strongest guy in the game, who just happened to have 2 hidden immunity idols as well, and they (Todd) throw it out the window because someone else came up with _exacatly the same freaking idea_! [/QUOTE] Just what I came here to say. I think they just missed their last chance to get James. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/25 "2007-11-09T17:16:20Z")
Yeah, you seldom see pixillated butt. Brand name masking was a good guess. Todd was ricocheting off so many plans that I wondered if he was double-crossing or triple-crossing James. Turned out he was just wobbly. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/26 "2007-11-09T17:24:39Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] I’ll do a recap. I make no pretense at objectivity, though. [/QUOTE] Screw objectivity, that was an excellent recap. Except for you failure to capitalize Hot Amanda. Nobody miss the full length parting words of JR at the CBS website. We can have a drinking game with every time he says “bigger threat”. I can only imagine what it will be like for him watching the show, watching himself being the idiot he was and how everybody danced circles around him. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/27 "2007-11-09T17:35:52Z")
I wonder if the show is under stronger censorship/mosiac-ing rules since it’s being shot in China? The pixel sensor seems awfully Miss Grundy this season. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/28 "2007-11-09T18:37:00Z")
I loved the way the reward challenge was structured. The winning team was only four to the losers’ five. The one left out was obviously the lowest person on the winning 5’s totem pole. Making her ripe for the flipping. I’m surprised Todd didn’t sniff this out, and make sure he was protected better by picking someone low on his pecking order (like Frosti) to boost their confidence and leave someone like Amanda to protect his interests at camp. It didn’t actually turn out this way, because both Frosti and Denise think they are in the final 4 (separately) and therefore wouldn’t be flipped. I think this show gets more interesting once PG and Erik are gone. Everyone will start backstabbing to get into position for the final 4. ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/29 "2007-11-09T19:09:52Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Back at camp, Courtney doesn’t give a shit who they vote out, as long as it isn’t her. Todd, who is turning into a weird mutation combining Rob Cesternino, The Brain from _Pinky and the Brain_, and Mr. Short Term Memory from _Saturday Night Live_, has decided that never mind that voting out James, let’s vote out Jean-Robert. There is a very funny moment where Frosti walks into the conversation just as Todd says “Let’s vote out Jean-Robert,” and Frosti kind of yelps, “Jean-Robert?”, because of course, if it’s J-R, it’s not P-G or Frosti himself, so it’s very good news for Frosti’s alliance. [/QUOTE] Great summary! I love the description of Todd. I really liked him early on, but man, he is spinning out of control with the scheming. About Frosti, I had been thinking that he was squeaked out Jean Robert’s name because he had known about Todd’s plan to get rid of James, and then suddenly there is James sitting with Todd at the camp, and the plan seems to have flipped 180 degrees. I had thought he was suffering Todd-scheming whiplash and was trying to figure out what the heck was going on. ---
**Author:** ![lalenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@lalenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lalenin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/30 "2007-11-09T19:51:19Z")
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane] And glow-in-the-dark bugs. Several varieties of those. Some of them only had glow-in-the-dark bits, and they were in odd places. [/QUOTE] Yes they were! Prior to this show the only glow in the dark bugs I’d ever seen had glowing dots on their heads, it was **iluminating** to see a new kind. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/31 "2007-11-09T20:48:06Z")
[QUOTE=Lil’ Mahoney] While I realise that everyone hates J-R, both in the game and here too, I can’t believe how dumb these people (read: Todd) were to not vote out James while they had the chance. They had a great plan to blindside the strongest guy in the game, who just happened to have 2 hidden immunity idols as well, and they (Todd) throw it out the window because someone else came up with _exacatly the same freaking idea_! [/QUOTE] It’s worse than that, even. If Todd had let JR run with the “vote James” plan, then guess who gets the blame for it? JR! Todd can still get credit for trying to save James, which leads to a vote for a million from James at the final. Horrible, horrible play. If someone who can’t shut up wants to backstab a player that you want gone, _let him!_ ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/32 "2007-11-09T20:50:13Z")
[QUOTE=PastAllReason] Great summary! I love the description of Todd. I really liked him early on, but man, he is spinning out of control with the scheming. About Frosti, I had been thinking that he was squeaked out Jean Robert’s name because he had known about Todd’s plan to get rid of James, and then suddenly there is James sitting with Todd at the camp, and the plan seems to have flipped 180 degrees. I had thought he was suffering Todd-scheming whiplash and was trying to figure out what the heck was going on. [/QUOTE] Yeah, you could see him thinking “Um, is this a new actual plan, or a fake plan?” ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/33 "2007-11-09T21:56:45Z")
\*\* weeps uncontrollably \*\* Oh my _God_, you guys! I missed _EVERYTHING!_ I am telling you, I am very disgruntled with my _veryownself_ right now! \*\* more weeping and blubbering and drinking of cheap vodka \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/34 "2007-11-10T00:05:28Z")
That Immunity Necklace isn’t exactly “One Size Fits All”, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/35 "2007-11-10T00:38:56Z")
My DirecTivo missed it this week. Did that happen to anyone else on the west coast? ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/36 "2007-11-10T02:09:54Z")
Courtney won the immunity challenge by being able to stay still. Most of these balance challenges are decided by this ability. Once you start to move around, you are done. It is much easier to maintain your balance than it is to regain it. ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/37 "2007-11-10T04:38:54Z")
> [@](#): > > They’re doing this so often, I’m starting to wonder if there’s another reason; perhaps Amanda has a big unwanted brand name on her shorts that the producers don’t want to show for legal reasons. I was totally confused by the pixilation. The top band of the bottom of her suit was visible, so the only possibility was that one side had ridden up and exposed her darling delectable derriere. But how in the hell could Hot Amanda not have known this? I mean it seems this would be uncomfortable as hell. I watched the show late last night and immediately whipped over to the Dope to read the survivor thread………and there wasn’t any! Sadness, melancholy and gloom washed over me— **Rockle.** ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/38 "2007-11-10T09:26:07Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] \*\* weeps uncontrollably \*\* Oh my _God_, you guys! I missed _EVERYTHING!_ I am telling you, I am very disgruntled with my _veryownself_ right now! \*\* more weeping and blubbering and drinking of cheap vodka \*\* [/QUOTE] [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) what are you waiting for? ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/39 "2007-11-10T20:47:07Z")
Early on in the show, I was actually hoping for J-R to win the whole thing, if only to stick it to the people who’ve treated him like crap the whole season. That all changed when he decided to pull that idiot strategy on Erik. The look on his face was _priceless_ when Erik told him about James and the HII’s. Talk about a Twix moment! I could actually hear gears grinding as J-R tried to process that information! So then he goes to James and tries to strong-arm him. Jeez, why don’t you just challenge him to an arm-wrestling match? _What a tool!_ Now, let me get this straight: Todd _gives_ James the first HII, and tells him where to find the second one, and he’s pissed that _James won’t give him one back?_ Why didn’t he just keep the first one and tell James where to find the second one? Oh yeah, I forgot–because Todd is _batshit crazy!_ I seriously think he’s the next to go. James, meet Karma. Karma, James. He almost busted a gut last week when Jamie played the fake II, and this week he was thisclose to getting blindsided with _two_ idols in his pocket! I swear, I thought he was going to cry or crap himself when the third vote came out! MHO: Right now, the FF is shaping up to be James, Erik, Pei-Ghee, and Amanda. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758/40 "2007-11-10T21:23:23Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] Now, let me get this straight: Todd _gives_ James the first HII, and tells him where to find the second one, and he’s pissed that _James won’t give him one back?_ Why didn’t he just keep the first one and tell James where to find the second one? Oh yeah, I forgot–because Todd is _batshit crazy!_ I seriously think he’s the next to go. [/QUOTE] Todd is _this_ close to pulling a Lex-style “I am the leader and as the leader we will do what I say, there will be no questioning of the leader” meltdown. And he is going to be equally shocked when people turn on him. I still think Amanda (the silent leader) will win it all, which means she won’t. But I’d be equally pleased by a James or Frosti win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-8/425758.md?page=3)