# Survivor 11/9 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452 "2011-11-10T00:40:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/21 "2011-11-10T20:26:38Z")
So Jim’s a rhino, and Dawn is a serpent. Maybe Coach will start calling himself the Rhinoslayer? I wonder if Ozzy had watched Coach’s first season, when he claimed he wanted all the strongest players to go to the final TC. That would have been an interesting card for him to play when he was talking with Coach. I hope they finish the Pagoning soon, so we can see Lil Hantz’s craziness when it starts getting to his alliance voting each other off. I’ve got a feeling we haven’t seen anything yet. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/22 "2011-11-10T21:35:42Z")
Was anyone thinking that Dawn was Brandon’s favorite for the same reason that he wanted to vote out Mykayla? Whitney is attractive young woman that may use her feminine charms to seduce Brandon. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/23 "2011-11-10T21:58:52Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Whitney is attractive young woman that may use her feminine charms to seduce Brandon. Jezebel! :eek: (Or ‘Hezzie’, as I like to say.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/24 "2011-11-11T02:30:44Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > It was nice of them to compress two Pagongs into one episode. Saves a little time. Yep, it was a nice way to minimize the tedium of inevitable votes. Hoping for another doubler next week so we can just get down to the one tribe and get the game going again. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/25 "2011-11-11T02:40:13Z")
I think they did the doubleheader last season too since there are three people on redemption post-merge. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/26 "2011-11-11T16:05:15Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think they did the doubleheader last season too since there are three people on redemption post-merge. I am curious how this will play out, given that Probst suggested that there will not be “multiple people” in a competition to return from Redemption Island… did I hear this correct? can anyone clarify? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/27 "2011-11-11T16:36:19Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > I am curious how this will play out, given that Probst suggested that there will not be “multiple people” in a competition to return from Redemption Island… did I hear this correct? can anyone clarify? yes, I remember him saying that there would only be two people on R.I. this year. I am not a R.I. like many here, but the one thing I really don’t like about RI is that they are Jury Members (at worse). And they Ozzie, and Keith didn’t get to hear Brandon make an ass out of himself in the second tribal council the other night. They probably already know he is an ass, but the 2nd tribal would have removed any doubt. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/28 "2011-11-11T17:05:40Z")
On Dalton’s interveiw with Probst, he basically said, it was more complicated than that, but hard to say in the interview before everything started. > [@](#): > > Dalton: **As we head to the tease for next week, you told me when filming began that there would be no group duels this season, yet by my math we have three dudes hanging out on Redemption Island. What gives?** > Probst: Yes, I did say that and I was trying to find a simple way to say that generally speaking duels will only be one on one. I think there are two times where we have double eliminations and have to have a 3 person duel. But only the winner stays. The two losers are out. My bad. Just seemed more complicated to explain it the way I just did. whatever ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/29 "2011-11-11T17:51:15Z")
Am I the only one that live tweets with Probst and watches all his Touts during the show? It makes watching the show even better. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/30 "2011-11-11T18:38:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > _“Some of the greatest inspiration is born of desperation, Marcus Aurelius once said,” Coach tells us._ Or “necessity is the mother of invention”, which you don’t need to (mis)attribute to anyone. The analogy that I wished Cochran had thought of at tribal, when facing the “we saved your ass, you lousy ingrate”: it’s like getting a stay of execution. But why was I on Death Row in the first place? My new tribe has given me a release. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/31 "2011-11-11T18:46:23Z")
If the jury has a bunch of Savaii members on it, then I want to sit next to Cochrane. Right now, there’s no way they’d vote for him. And it seems unlikely that he’d do anything to change that attitude. The smart play is to assume a 3 person Final Tribal and to try and sit next to Brandon and Cochrane. Even I’d have to vote for Coach over those 2 (If I was a Savaii member) ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/32 "2011-11-11T19:24:21Z")
Will someone on Coaches team realize that they are sitting at the bottom of the totem pole? Each of the think that they are part of the “cool kids” this week is the only time that 3 of them can fracture from the other 4. Three plus Whitney and Dawn make 5 and a majority. We saw a Upulo stress fracture a couple of weeks ago when Sophie/Albert wanted Edna out, and the others wanted Mykayla. This week, Sophie/Edna should get Cochran plus Whitney and Dawn and vote out Coach (or Cowboy). You want to keep Brandon and Edna around for obvious reasons. Edna because she is worthless and Brandon, because he can’t win FTC. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/33 "2011-11-11T20:10:57Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > The smart play is to assume a 3 person Final Tribal and to try and sit next to Brandon and Cochrane. Even I’d have to vote for Coach over those 2 (If I was a Savaii member) I might actually vote for Cochrane over Ben. He’s the guy who would have engineered him getting to the final. And I dislike Ben maybe more than I dislike any other _Survivor_ player, except Russell. But it’s a close call there! ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/34 "2011-11-11T20:20:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I might actually vote for Cochrane over Ben. He’s the guy who would have engineered him getting to the final. And I dislike Ben maybe more than I dislike any other _Survivor_ player, except Russell. But it’s a close call there! I think Coach is a self deluded lunatic, but he is great fun to watch. Russell was also very entertaining. Just think how boring Survivor would be if all of the players were serious, sane, honorable and focused. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/35 "2011-11-11T20:32:16Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Will someone on Coaches team realize that they are sitting at the bottom of the totem pole? Each of the think that they are part of the “cool kids” The previews for next week suggest thatAlbert plots against Coach, and Coach finds out. I know the previews are often intentionally misleading, but it did seem like there might be something to it. This could be good news for Cochran, if he’s savvy enough to take advantage. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/36 "2011-11-11T21:00:42Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > I think Coach is a self deluded lunatic, but he is great fun to watch. Russell was also very entertaining. > Just think how boring Survivor would be if all of the players were serious, sane, honorable and focused. In GD, we call that the fallacy of the excluded middle. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452/37 "2011-11-12T01:42:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The roomie used to be a paralegal. She said that based on Cochran’s performance, she wouldn’t want him as a lawyer. He seems like the kind of lawyer who would spend a career writing microscopic clauses in credit card agreements. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-11-9/602452.md?page=1)