# Survivor 12/17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 18, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699 "2009-12-18T01:17:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/21 "2009-12-18T18:23:35Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > I do wonder how Russell’s wealth will play to the jury, now that the cat’s out of the bag on that. Will they vote for him for being a better player? Or will they give it to someone who _needs_ it more? > > (Assuming Russell makes it that far.) My prediction: Russell cares far more about winning than the money (since he doesn’t need it). When the jury asks the inevitable morality play question “What would you do with the money”, if Russell simply admits that he doesn’t need the money and will donate it all to charity, then he is unstoppable for the win. ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/22 "2009-12-18T20:54:34Z")
This episode wasn’t much of a surprise. I am intrigued to see what the final 3 looks like. If Brett can hold on, I thin he will be a shoo-in for the winner, but who knows what can happen with the II. In the beginning of the season, I was hating Russell, but he has certainly grown on me. He has taken the game to the utmost level and used everything he had to make to where he is. I did find it a little disheartening to see that Mick, Jaison and Natalie didn’t use this opportunity to vote him out last night. Maybe Natalie will grow a pair and she, Brett and Mick will vote Russell off next time. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/23 "2009-12-18T21:03:42Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > Maybe Natalie will grow a pair and she, Brett and Mick will vote Russell off next time. It depends on what god tells her to do. He’s clearly not very good at pulling strings though. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/24 "2009-12-18T22:07:09Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > So, who totally knew Natalie would have coconuts crash down on her once they started showing her talk about prayer and God and so forth? > > I saw that coming a mile away. First thing I thought of was “Pride goeth before a fall.” (Proverbs 16: 18) ---
**Author:** ![raindrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@raindrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindrop)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/25 "2009-12-19T02:31:17Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > It depends on what god tells her to do. He’s clearly not very good at pulling strings though. Oh wow, either I’m in very ticklish mood, or you’re VERY funny. Good one! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CCYMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/87869e/32.png) [@CCYMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCYMan)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/26 "2009-12-19T04:12:07Z")
Doh, upon review I see that singular1 beat me to it. I was going to point out that Shambo thought the reward experience “superseded” her expectations. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/27 "2009-12-19T06:05:34Z")
When did Shambo say “superseded her expectations.” When **singular1** said it upthread, I didn’t realize she was snarking on Shambo. LMAO ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/28 "2009-12-19T07:57:43Z")
> [@raindrop](#): > > Oh wow, either I’m in very ticklish mood, or you’re VERY funny. Good one! 😃 Let’s go with the latter 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/29 "2009-12-19T19:57:49Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > When did Shambo say “superseded her expectations.” When **singular1** said it upthread, I didn’t realize she was snarking on Shambo. LMAO During confessional Shambo was explaining how one of her main priorities was to experience Samoan culture. She went to say how the reward challenge superseded her expectations. (I really thought it was superceded with a “c”. Am I thinking of the British spelling, possibly?) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/30 "2009-12-19T20:09:44Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > (I really thought it was superceded with a “c”. Am I thinking of the British spelling, possibly?) > **[Definition of SUPERCEDE](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supercede)** > > … See the full definition > [@](#): > > Main Entry: **su·per·cede** > _variant of_ [SUPERSEDE](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supersede) > **usage** _Supercede_ has occurred as a spelling variant of _supersede_ since the 17th century, and it is common in current published writing. It continues, however, to be widely regarded as an error. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/31 "2009-12-19T20:10:14Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > (I really thought it was superceded with a “c”. Am I thinking of the British spelling, possibly?) (Brit here). Nope - it is a misspelling or alternative spelling (according to your viewpoint) on both sides of the pond. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/32 "2009-12-20T21:32:35Z")
I haven’t watched this season at all. But I’m seeing the commercials describing Russell as the evilest player ever. I’m thinking “worse than Johnny Fairplay and Boston Rob?” What has Russell done to deserve the title? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/33 "2009-12-20T21:56:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I haven’t watched this season at all. But I’m seeing the commercials describing Russell as the evilest player ever. I’m thinking “worse than Johnny Fairplay and Boston Rob?” What has Russell done to deserve the title? He’s playing the game well. He’s lied to just about everyone. He’s called pretty much every vote that he’s been at TC for (which is nearly all of them - his tribe didn’t do well in challenges pre-merge). In the confessional videos, he’s fairly insulting to everyone he talks about - they’re all idiots, he’s leading them around by the nose, they’re too stupid to be in this game, etc. In the first or second episode, he decided to secretly screw with his tribe by dumping all their fresh water, and tossing Jaison’s socks in the fire (and I REALLY hope that comes up in the reunion show). And he also told a story to his tribe about how he lived through Katrina, but couldn’t save his dog, which he watched float away in the flood. Some of the women were crying. Then he admitted in a confessional that it’s totally made up - he was nowhere near Katrina, and never had a dog. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699/34 "2009-12-21T00:42:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I haven’t watched this season at all. But I’m seeing the commercials describing Russell as the evilest player ever. I’m thinking “worse than Johnny Fairplay and Boston Rob?” What has Russell done to deserve the title? He’s not as vile and disgusting as Johnny Fairplay, but is more scheming than Boston Rob. More like Richard Hatch and Boston Rob combined, adding more intelligence and removing the gay part. I find him more likable than Hatch, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-17/521699.md?page=1)