# Survivor 12/2
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [December 2, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689 "2004-12-02T14:18:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/1 "2004-12-02T14:18:28Z")
Well, I’m glad I didn’t give up on this season. Last week ROCKED. Hoping Miss Ami gets dethroned tonight.
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### Author:  [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/2 "2004-12-02T19:09:05Z")
I think this one might be worth staying awake for.
Yes, I’m also hoping Ami gets the boot tonight.
Is it time for the Car Reward?
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### Author:  [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/3 "2004-12-02T19:44:28Z")
Car is either this week or next week…I’m thinkin’ this might be the week. Where’s the gross food challenge? The last two seasons they had the family doing the gross food. Maybe it wouldn’t work this time, since they’re apparently very well-fed. Nobody’s wasting - Amy has even managed to put on a few pounds, I think.
But I dearly hope she has to mingle with all those despicable penii in loser lounge after tonight.
And Snewser, Survivor Chatter & Acme Brain Trust all think she will! Yay!
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### Author:  [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/4 "2004-12-02T21:42:41Z")
Anyone have a champion prediction (non-spoilered, of course!)?
I’m leaning toward Eliza as the comeback kid!
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### Author:  [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/5 "2004-12-02T22:02:47Z")
> [@watsonwil](#):
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> Anyone have a champion prediction (non-spoilered, of course!)?
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> I’m leaning toward Eliza as the comeback kid!
Hmm… trying not to click the spoiler. Trying not to click the spoiler…
I desperately want Twila to win.
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### Author:  [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/6 "2004-12-02T22:22:48Z")
> [@watsonwil](#):
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> Anyone have a champion prediction (non-spoilered, of course!)?
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> I’m leaning toward Eliza as the comeback kid!
\*\*Pure speculation:\*\*I can see the F2 being Eliza and Twila. Ami, Leann and Julie would vote for Eliza. Sarge, Chad, Chris and Scout would vote for Twila.
I think.
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2004, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/7 "2004-12-02T23:15:46Z")
I predict Chris is the winner. Just because it would piss Ami off. 🙂
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### Author:  [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/8 "2004-12-03T02:00:53Z")
That was one sweet episode.
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### Author:  [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/9 "2004-12-03T02:07:40Z")
I agree, but the foreshadowed break downs next week look like a gas also.
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### Author:  [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/10 "2004-12-03T02:12:26Z")
I noticed that Julie certainly played duck and cover this week. Riding on Ami’s coattails certainly isn’t working out for her now…
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/11 "2004-12-03T02:30:00Z")
It’s interesting. I used to hate Eliza. But the more she shows herself to be a conniving, lying, backstabbing bitch, the more I like her!
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### Author:  [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/12 "2004-12-03T02:45:44Z")
Ah yes, Eliza, my new favorite Disney princess. 😃 . She is doing so well with the backstabbing , scheming, and lying that has FINALLY come to the forefront of the women’s alliance.
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### Author:  [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/13 "2004-12-03T02:58:14Z")
I would WATCH Eliza with eyes in back of my head! She probably will make a great lawyer 😃
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/14 "2004-12-03T03:06:43Z")
Wow. Ami is one stone-cold bitch! Buh bye, now.
And Burnett definitely had me thinking that Eliza might vote with Ami. Which was stupid of me. Why would she risk a tie? But whatever. I’m gullible like that.
Speaking of which, why the heck was everyone so up in arms about Twila “swearing on her son?” What does that even mean? Are they in grade school? Sheesh!
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### Author:  [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/15 "2004-12-03T03:09:10Z")
Beats me. Every single season someone gets pissed off for being lied to. You’d think they’d have learned by now. People lie in this game.
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### Author:  [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/16 "2004-12-03T03:37:26Z")
Hasn’t Ami figured out that anytime anyone says “I just have to laugh because I’m not mad about this”, it telegraphs their fury even more? It’s obvious that she was extremely upset, but was completely unwilling to admit it. As a result, she comes off looking like a little kid who doesn’t want anyone to see her cry.
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### Author:  [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/17 "2004-12-03T03:41:15Z")
My son had a Christmas concert tonight, I almost did not tape this episode - After missing last week I decided to tape it - I am glad I did.
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### Author:  [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/18 "2004-12-03T03:42:59Z")
Oh, I bet the Loser Lodge was fun _that_ evening, with Ami and Leann commiserating with each other over being backstabbed and then forced to be surrounded by evil _men_. Hee!
My favorite line of the night? Twila at tribal council: “Grow up, get over it, and screw you!” Gotta love that woman!
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### Author:  [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/19 "2004-12-03T04:49:49Z")
My favorite line was during the reward, when the girls didn’t leave enough hot water for Chris to shower with.
“Those bitches!”
My. thoughts. exactly.
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### Author:  [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-12-2/277689/20 "2004-12-03T04:58:34Z")
They’ve finally figured out a way to make it interesting this season.
But oh how I hate Twila. If I had to listen to that accent for a month I’d spend most of my time underwater.
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