# Survivor 2/28: That's Baked, Barbecued and Fried! (unboxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581 "2008-02-29T00:59:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/21 "2008-02-29T19:37:22Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] Jonny Assplay [/QUOTE] _shudder_ Please, for my consideration at least, do not juxtapose those words… ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/22 "2008-02-29T20:25:30Z")
No love for “Penner” here. I thought he was a tool the first time around and he’s average, if that, at challenges. The only thing he offers is a big mouth. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/23 "2008-02-29T20:54:54Z")
[QUOTE=muldoonthief] I know it’s been asked before, but why on earth does Jeff keep referring to Jonathan as “Penner” during challenges? I know it’s his last name, but it’s not what anyone else calls him, there’s no other Jonathan (or even John now that Fairplay’s gone, and Jeff called him “Fairplay” anyway) in the game, and it confuses me (and I’d guess a lot of other people) every time he does it. If we saw even one scene where Jonathan called him “Probst”, I’d get it as some kind of in-joke, but there’s not even that. [/QUOTE] From what I understand, there’s a Survivor circuit where cast members and Probst go on tour, meetings fans, doing Q&As, autograph sessions, etc. With so many cast members named “John” “Mike” “James” and other common names, I’d imagine Jeff uses some method to distinguish them when cast members from multiple seasons are in one place, like nicknames, initals, and last names. Hence, Penner. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/24 "2008-02-29T21:02:19Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] And thanks, Liberal! Very cool! [/QUOTE] You’re welcome! 🙂 Verdana is a much better font, and the gray is much easier on these old eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/25 "2008-02-29T21:03:45Z")
[QUOTE=SmellMyWort] No love for “Penner” here. I thought he was a tool the first time around and he’s average, if that, at challenges. The only thing he offers is a big mouth. [/QUOTE] I completely agree. He has the smarminess of Hawkeye from M.A.S.H., but not the sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/26 "2008-03-01T01:49:24Z")
**Liberal** and **singular1** , do you guys usually watch the “next week on” previews, or do you make it a point to avoid them as spoilers? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/27 "2008-03-01T02:41:12Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I completely agree. He has the smarminess of Hawkeye from M.A.S.H., but not the sense of humor. [/QUOTE] And “Penner”'s voice is still a dead ringer for Alda. Its kind of spooky to hear Hawkeye being such a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Aithele](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Aithele](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aithele)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/28 "2008-03-01T06:57:47Z")
I thought it was smart of Tracy to use Joel’s ego to get rid of Mike. Instead of telling him they needed to vote off Mike, she asked why Joel was letting him run the game. She manipulated him right into what she wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/29 "2008-03-01T07:46:59Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] **Liberal** and **singular1** , do you guys usually watch the “next week on” previews, or do you make it a point to avoid them as spoilers? [/QUOTE] I watch them, but I don’t necessarily buy into them. I take them as moments lifted from a context that is itself already contrived. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/30 "2008-03-01T17:11:14Z")
I watch them, too, but I share **Lib’s** cynicism. Been burned many a time. I used to be a spoiler ho, going over them like a Zapruder film, but I’ve mellowed as the series’ aged. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/31 "2008-03-01T17:55:13Z")
The Fans have to be the dumbest group of Survivors ever. OK, I can see fooling Joel because he obviously has a big ego and what’s her name (the older woman who’s not Kathy) stroked it in just the right way, but why did Erik go along with this plan? And how does what’s her name (the older woman who’s not Kathy) not see that hitching her wagon to Chet’s star is going to get her no where? These Fans are all just like Rob C. They think they’ve got all the angles figured out so they overthink _ **everything** _ and then get snuffed well before their time. Aside from the Bon Jovi Twins (Jason and Erik), all the Fans can take a flying leap. More of the Favorites, now! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581/32 "2008-03-01T19:02:41Z")
The whole idea of voting out dudes on your team \*becuase they are good at challanges _is just staggeringly unbeleivable. \* Nothing_ is worse than having your team 2 dudes down at the merge, then being Pagonged out. Yeah, sure Yau is a dude you dont want to go up against in the Final Four, but you’re a looooong way away from that at this point. And voting out the big strong dude just to keep in the Wimpy Mcwhinerson? :rolleyes: Stupid, stupid stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-2-28-thats-baked-barbecued-and-fried-unboxed-spoilers/439581.md?page=1)