# Survivor 3/13/13 Persona non Grata **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 13, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817 "2013-03-13T14:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/21 "2013-03-14T05:09:59Z")
Man, I felt dirty just watching that trainwreck \. I guess Probst earned his weekly pretty well, but I know that there were probably 100 crew members nearby in case he failed to calm the wild boar. ---
**Author:** ![\_Olive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/4af34b/32.png) [@\_Olive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Olive)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/22 "2013-03-14T07:11:04Z")
Did any one watch the Brandon interview at the end? That boy is delusional. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/23 "2013-03-14T10:11:51Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > No Hantz should ever be allowed on Survivor. Geez they’re all assholes. Brandon needs anger management classes and some heavy meds. And his uncle Willie got ejected from Big Brother last season for getting violent. Russell is the sane one, and by a wide margin. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/24 "2013-03-14T12:47:29Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > IMO this was Brandons attempt to grab some fame; he failed. My feelings exactly,failed miserably. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/25 "2013-03-14T13:39:25Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > It’s obvious to me that the best thing Brandon ever did for his kids was leave them to play Survivor. And he’ll never believe that he’s nothing but a laughingstock. I have zero doubt he’s going to be arrested for assault, possibly murder, within the next few years. I’ve been thinking similar things about his future arrest(s). I said to the SO, ‘I wonder how he’s enjoying his performance, watching it on his big-screen TV in his single-wide.’ (She said, ‘Or in his uncle’s house.’) Not to disparage people who live in trailers, but he’s really perpetuating the stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/26 "2013-03-14T13:55:18Z")
I think Probst handled the whole thing very well. Over on EW, this week’s interview with Probst has him saying that he decided pretty early on that they should just have Tribal there at the challenge rather than let Brandon go back to the camp. He also says that he has a mic to communicate with those off location and he alerted them to a potentially explosive situation and to have the boat with the psychologist on it ready to go. Being on the show is stressful and I think it can break people. People who already have cracks are probably more vulnerable. Brandon has quite a few cracks. I hope they were able to salvage some of their beans and rice, at least he didn’t pee on it or burn the shelter down. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/27 "2013-03-14T14:04:18Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I think there was some serious rope burns on the guys who were holding the coconut baskets. > > It looked like everyone was throwing underhand. > > Was it against the rules to have a designated thrower? I would have thought it would been smart to set up a “bucket brigade” to get the coconuts to the tribe-mate who was best at shooting the coconuts into the basket. I assume so - it seems that they had to take turns. I also assume they just had to hold onto the rope with their hands & fingers - no one wrapped it around their arms or anything. > [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > I think Probst handled the whole thing very well. > > Over on EW, this week’s interview with Probst has him saying that he decided pretty early on that they should just have Tribal there at the challenge rather than let Brandon go back to the camp. He also says that he has a mic to communicate with those off location and he alerted them to a potentially explosive situation and to have the boat with the psychologist on it ready to go. The boat with the psychologist? And the nice men with the funny coat? ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/28 "2013-03-14T14:58:44Z")
> [@](#): > > **Jeff Probst** > > Because something like this had never happened before there was no plan in place. I was assessing moment to moment, making decisions based on what was playing out in front of me. I can share with you that I was whispering instructions into my microphone (which is fed to our audio department) for our safety and security guys to be ready to assist if necessary. I was also asking for our show psychologist to be put on a boat and brought over immediately so she could counsel Brandon after the incident was over. and then… > [@](#): > > **Jeff Probst** > …all contestants have access to psychological counseling after the show. That starts the moment they are voted out. Our psychologist is the first person they see after leaving tribal council. Brandon is no different. Our psychologist is there for any contestant who needs care whenever they need it. If necessary we find a psychologist or therapist for a contestant in their home town. I can’t speak about Brandon specifically due to confidentiality, but we are in constant communication with him and will be for as long as he needs it. IANAPsychologist, but I think Brandon might have anger issues. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/29 "2013-03-14T15:53:58Z")
> [@misstee](#): > > I thought they did mental health checks before allowing contestants to play. Neither Brandon nor Philip should have passed. Either they don’t do psych profiles (which is bad)…or they do, and thought that Brandon was Ratings Gold! (which is worse). All that ranting about being “author of his own fate” sounded like it could have come from someone holding hostages wearing a suicide vest. That boy has issues. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/30 "2013-03-14T16:05:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > All that ranting about being “author of his own fate” sounded like it could have come from someone holding hostages wearing a suicide vest. That boy has issues. _I am the master of my fate I am the captain of my soul_ Timothy McVeigh quoted the last two lines of _Invictus_ as his final written statement. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/31 "2013-03-14T16:29:35Z")
On another subject, does anyone know if there are specific rules about the Hidden Immunity Idol? This time it was hidden again immediately after it was used but other times, in the past, it seems like once it was used, we never heard anything about it again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/32 "2013-03-14T16:34:52Z")
Rules? Producers don’t need no stinkin’ rules! ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/33 "2013-03-14T17:02:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Rules? Producers don’t need no stinkin’ rules! I expect that’s probably the answer. Whatever is going to make for a better episode is the rule that is applied. The contestants probably agree to that when they sign their contracts. There’s obviously no hard rule that contestants may only be voted out in the ‘tribal counsel area’ by secret ballot. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/34 "2013-03-14T17:33:57Z")
During the challenge it looked to me as if Brenda was limping pretty good. Did I miss something? She twist her ankle or something? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/35 "2013-03-14T17:37:52Z")
IMO, Mark Burnett and the others PTB don’t care what is said about the production and contestants on Survivor. They only care that _ **Something is Said** _ about Survivor. Look at the TWoP threads . There are already more comments about last nights episode than any of the four prior episodes this season. As long as that happens, Production is going to look for potential train-wrecks as contestants. People are not going to talk about nice normal and uncontroversial people. They talk about Philip, and Brandon, and Facts of Life Blair, and Racist Colton, and Russell, etc etc. What happened last night is exactly the type of thing that TPTB wanted. I would not be surprised if next weeks episode is gets the highest ratings of any regular episode this season. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/36 "2013-03-14T18:00:14Z")
> [@Astroboy14](#): > > During the challenge it looked to me as if Brenda was limping pretty good. Did I miss something? She twist her ankle or something? I was wondering that too; I don’t think we saw her injure it at any point. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/37 "2013-03-14T18:07:56Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > On another subject, does anyone know if there are specific rules about the Hidden Immunity Idol? This time it was hidden again immediately after it was used but other times, in the past, it seems like once it was used, we never heard anything about it again. It’s always been put back into play if a contestant used it at tribal council. If I remember correctly the original Hantz found several of them without clues. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/38 "2013-03-14T20:23:24Z")
The worst part? Brandumb & his wife are expecting their third poor child in about four months. I just listened to the EW Inside TV podcast, and he is immensely proud of how he acted and how he went out. Utterly delusional. ---
**Author:** ![as\_u\_wish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@as\_u\_wish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/as_u_wish)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/39 "2013-03-14T22:48:14Z")
I was waiting for Brandon to pull out an immunity idol and really mess with everyone as Philip was voted out based on Brandon’s one vote. ---
**Author:** ![jacobsta811](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jacobsta811/32/2893_2.png) [@jacobsta811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacobsta811)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817/40 "2013-03-14T22:54:57Z")
Pretty sure they are looking for crazy people when they do psychological profiles, not sane ones. As far as the immunity idol judging by when it gets found and at least one interview where a contestant talked about looking in the same spot where the idol was later found, they rehide the idol during the reward challenge immediately following it being used at tribal, at least in prior seasons. Not sure that applied during seasons where it was “hiding in plain sight” like on the rice container, but in seasons where it was hidden hidden like the ones with russell they always rehid it. We just don’t see it that often because the idol tends to get dragged along into the end game until the last possible moment, or used right after a merge while there are two idols and I don’t think they rehide a _second_ immunity idol if one is still in someone’s possession. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-3-13-13-persona-non-grata/652817.md?page=3)