# Survivor 37: David vs. Goliath Premieres Tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 26, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965 "2018-09-26T19:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/281 "2018-12-20T18:42:19Z")
Yeah it’s always interesting to me how long the seasons can feel - Jeremy had a pretty memorable blowup with Nataile but it was so early in the season it felt like ages ago. I read that he left Ponderosa early and that’s why he wasn’t there at the reunion. The more I think about it, the more I agree with **SlackerInc** that the Goliaths probably did band together and got the Davids to screw up their majority, but the edit glossed over this to try and make it look like a “no more tribes” game. After all, Nick won three straight immunities to make it to the end and was clearly left out of the Davie vote. Now I think that Mike/Kara/Angelina did a good job of playing under-the-radar and convincing the Davids to go after themselves as threats, and suddenly they’re back in control. But since Nick won in the end the storyline gets framed differently. Speaking of driving a storyline, they really tried hard with Angelina finding that HII at the end, huh? Even though she was unable to acquire it herself, lost the clue, overdramatized the danger, and ended up needing help from the two guys to get it. And then tried to make a false dramatic moment with Alison. Yeah, sorry, Angelina is not the sort of person/situation you want to use as an example for women’s power or anything. > [@](#): > > BTW, I never heard of that show, “Crazy Rich Asians”, googling I see it was a movie released this summer; when Probst talked about it, I thought it was a new CBS sit-com. The actor (Nico Santos) is also a main cast member on Superstore, which is a sit-com… can’t remember if Probst mentioned that or not (since it’s an NBC show). It was definitely weird to me to see him on a Survivor finale… small world! ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/282 "2018-12-20T19:28:30Z")
I liked Christian about half way through the season, but he started seeming like a pretentsious douche, was very unlikable when he was voted out. ---
**Author:** ![Rough\_Draft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@Rough\_Draft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rough_Draft)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/283 "2018-12-20T20:23:25Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Two of the cast were missing last night from the reunion. Alec was not allowed at the reunion because he violated his Non disclosure agreement by posting a picture of him and Kara before the cast was announced last summer. > > And Jeremy wasn’t there either, apparently because of comments he made in exit interviews. Regarding Jeremy, what I heard is that after being voted out he insisted on going home immediately, rather than staying until filming ended as is customary. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/284 "2018-12-20T22:06:40Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > The more I think about it, the more I agree with **SlackerInc** that the Goliaths probably did band together and got the Davids to screw up their majority, but the edit glossed over this to try and make it look like a “no more tribes” game. After all, Nick won three straight immunities to make it to the end and was clearly left out of the Davie vote. Now I think that Mike/Kara/Angelina did a good job of playing under-the-radar and convincing the Davids to go after themselves as threats, and suddenly they’re back in control. But since Nick won in the end the storyline gets framed differently. Thank you! I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing this. What I wonder is: why does Nick winning in the end mean they had to obscure this in the editing? Isn’t “oh crap, we got too focused on each other and our tunnel-vision hubris let the Goliaths take back control” followed by “now for a David to win, it’s going to require going on an immunity tear, and one actually pulled it off!” still a compelling narrative? ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/285 "2018-12-21T00:21:55Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > Speaking of driving a storyline, they really tried hard with Angelina finding that HII at the end, huh? Even though she was unable to acquire it herself, lost the clue, overdramatized the danger, and ended up needing help from the two guys to get it. And then tried to make a false dramatic moment with Alison. Yeah, sorry, Angelina is not the sort of person/situation you want to use as an example for women’s power or anything. This, and then some. I’ve tried to defend Angelina here in the past; I thought maybe she was a bit out of touch but not necessarily mean-spirited or anything. But she totally lost me over the fake HII move. No reason at all to do that except to be petty. I loved that Nick called her out when she tried to claim it wasn’t to embarrass Alison. And then she pretty much all but admitted that it was. I also had to laugh when, immediately after Nick declared he was sending Mike and Cara to the fire challenge because there was no way Angelina could win, she gushed “I convinced Nick to take me to the final three!” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/286 "2018-12-21T05:33:35Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I also had to laugh when, immediately after Nick declared he was sending Mike and Cara to the fire challenge because there was no way Angelina could win, she gushed “I convinced Nick to take me to the final three!” Kinda like they say about poker: if you can’t tell who they’re dragging to the Final 3 to be the goat…it’s you. ---
**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/287 "2018-12-21T16:35:06Z")
What ever happened to the “Fan Favorite” award? Or did I doze through it? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/288 "2018-12-21T16:45:24Z")
How long were you dozing? They haven’t done fan favorite since 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/289 "2018-12-21T16:53:22Z")
I wondered where this beard came from. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/290 "2018-12-21T20:15:27Z")
LOL (You’re not the famous Vikings fan Chicken Fingers, are you?) ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/291 "2018-12-21T21:03:16Z")
They used to give a car (or truck) as a reward too. Now it is a spaghetti dinner for three. And first prize was a Million dollars 18 years ago. And it is still a Million dollars. Considering that the five main Big Bang Theory actors EACH get a Million Dollars per episode ([wiki source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_paid_American_television_stars)), what does the P/L statement look like for a season of Survivor? Ka-Ching Ka-Ching! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/292 "2018-12-21T21:51:02Z")
How about a season made up of 16-18 people who got voted off first? Or got voted off in the first 2-3 of their season? I know Jeff has talked before about some GREAT people who never got a chance to shine. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/293 "2018-12-21T22:03:44Z")
I’ve had the same idea, of a season of nothing but first-one-out (“Survivor: Second Chance”). But we would need to come to grips with the fact that some poor schmuck would have the dubious distinction of being the first one voted off, _twice_. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/294 "2018-12-21T22:05:29Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’ve had the same idea, of a season of nothing but first-one-out (“Survivor: Second Chance”). But we would need to come to grips with the fact that some poor schmuck would have the dubious distinction of being the first one voted off, _twice_. Of course and my wife said this last night when I mentioned it. Still, I bet some amazing contestants have had bad luck. ---
**Author:** ![Rough\_Draft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@Rough\_Draft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rough_Draft)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/295 "2018-12-21T22:45:53Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’ve had the same idea, of a season of nothing but first-one-out (“Survivor: Second Chance”). But we would need to come to grips with the fact that some poor schmuck would have the dubious distinction of being the first one voted off, _twice_. Unfortunately I think Francesca has already suffered this fate (_Redemption Island_ and _Caramoan_ seasons). ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/296 "2018-12-21T22:51:07Z")
> [@Rough\_Draft](#): > > Unfortunately I think Francesca has already suffered this fate (_Redemption Island_ and _Caramoan_ seasons). Indeed she did, which really pissed me off. First off because she is awesome. But you should just not do that to someone (talking about the people who voted her off the second time). Wait until the second boot at least! ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/297 "2018-12-21T23:45:32Z")
No one would remember Francesca if she weren’t the first boot, twice. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/298 "2018-12-22T00:09:52Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > No one would remember Francesca if she weren’t the first boot, twice. I would! In her very limited time in her first appearance she very quickly became one of my favorite players. And I have seen every season in its entirety, except for China. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/299 "2018-12-22T01:11:08Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Of course and my wife said this last night when I mentioned it. Still, I bet some amazing contestants have had bad luck. Nick was on track to being the first voted out this season until,that guy fell in the boat and had to be medivaced. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-37-david-vs-goliath-premieres-tonight/821965/300 "2018-12-22T05:00:34Z")
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