# Survivor 38: Edge of Extinction premieres Wednesday

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**Created:** [February 18, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774 "2019-02-18T17:32:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/121 "2019-04-20T13:45:54Z")

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But when he got four, he was done. Anyone else would still have one more to go.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/122 "2019-04-20T19:24:51Z")

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A couple people had 3 when he got his 4th. If they’d been given the advantage instead of him, I’m not sure he could have pulled it out. He struggled mightily with the 4th ball.

If there were no advantage at all, I think you’d have to bet on him despite his shaky finish.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/123 "2019-04-20T20:16:06Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> A couple people had 3 when he got his 4th. If they’d been given the advantage instead of him, I’m not sure he could have pulled it out. He struggled mightily with the 4th ball.
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> If there were no advantage at all, I think you’d have to bet on him despite his shaky finish.

Yeha, it certainly _could_ have given him the win, but he was doing well without it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/124 "2019-04-21T00:45:43Z")

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Has anyone heard the rumor of the next season(or maybe the next next season)?

I’ll spoiler even though it is unconfirmed:

A season made up entirely of previous winners.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/125 "2019-04-21T07:04:56Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Thing is, endurance challenges are the most fair, keeps the strong males from winning them all.

It really depends on the challenge. Some, like the one they just did holding up the pot of water with the parallel bars on their shoulders, do seem pretty fair to me. But then you’ve got ones where they have to balance on their toes or some other small platform, and I think those actually hurt the larger players (usually male) and are slanted towards smaller players.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Has anyone heard the rumor of the next season(or maybe the next next season)?
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> I’ll spoiler even though it is unconfirmed:
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> A season made up entirely of previous winners.

[spoiler]Yup, that’s the rumor for S40. Probst had previously said they wouldn’t do it because they “have 10 great winners that you’d want to see play again. We don’t have 20. We don’t have 18. Some of the winners don’t want to play again. Some of the greats are like, ‘No, we’re done.’”

Personally, while I’d obviously rather have more interesting winners, I’d rather have an all-winners season even if you need to pull in the forgettable ones.

Could still be possible we’ll see something like a Winners vs. Legends season or something. Still keeping my fingers crossed for all-winners.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/126 "2019-04-21T13:33:31Z")

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> [@Noelq](#):
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> When they land on Survivor, their clothes are chosen by the show to give an impression of what they would wear normally. They don’t get to choose their own outfits - otherwise they’d be wearing much more sensible clothes.

I’ve never heard that. Where did you see or hear that?

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> The fact that no one really leaves the show really has killed the pacing. Episodes are rushed because they have to spend a chunk of time on loser island showing them being bitter each episode.

Yep, same as Exile Island, but I guess not as bad. I still prefer the “voted out, stays out” version of the game.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/127 "2019-04-21T16:22:13Z")

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It’s true about the producers picking players’ clothes. Which is incredibly unfair to women. :mad:

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Has anyone heard the rumor of the next season(or maybe the next next season)?
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> I’ll spoiler even though it is unconfirmed:
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> A season made up entirely of previous winners.

I would love this! I want to see Michele Fitzgerald again. She might be my favorite winner; she is definitely the most underrated.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/128 "2019-04-21T18:20:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’ve never heard that. Where did you see or hear that?
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> Yep, same as Exile Island, but I guess not as bad. I still prefer the “voted out, stays out” version of the game.

I had heard they grab them after a photo shoot or something, and whatever they are dressing in then- they wear. Except they have to go pick one item in whatever color they want the two teams to have. Or that item is picked for them.

But yeah, I’d be wearing convertible pants/shorts made with bug repellent , a Smartwool Tshirt, a shirt with bug repellent, a wool sweater and a light gortex jacket.

Yeah, me too, but as long as they dont do this very often, I am Ok with it.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/129 "2019-04-25T15:41:48Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Perhaps Wardog finds a way to make this work, but I’m pretty suspicious of his move against Wentworth. It seems to me that now he has absolutely nobody willing to protect him, and no idol. Now perhaps Wentworth would have made a move for him in the next episode, but I don’t see why Victoria, Rick, Ron, and Aurora would have any real loyalty towards him. I could very easily see them pull in Lauren (or even Gavin) and vote out Wardog immediately.

And so it comes to pass.

Why Wardog only now realized that he needs other “threats” to protect him, after voting out multiple other threats back-to-back, will remain befuddling. It’s like he was looking ahead to a final-5 vote when he was scared Wentworth would turn on him and then realized he had no path to get there once she was gone.

Wentworth hamming it up at tribal was pretty lame. “Revenge for me” my ass.

And yet another wasted segment on EoE island. I’m pretty comfortable saying this is one of the top-3 bad ideas this show has had now.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/130 "2019-04-25T15:56:47Z")

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I don’t overly hate it, but yeah, even the most charitable review of the EoE twist would include words like “pointless” and “waste of time.” And as pointed out, it kind of messes with the dynamic of the show when nobody ever leaves. So agreed; top 3 bad Survivor twist, easily.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/131 "2019-04-25T16:11:48Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I don’t overly hate it, but yeah, even the most charitable review of the EoE twist would include words like “pointless” and “waste of time.” And as pointed out, it kind of messes with the dynamic of the show when nobody ever leaves. So agreed; top 3 bad Survivor twist, easily.

I’m so tired of Reem. You got voted out first by almost your entire tribe. Suck it up.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/132 "2019-04-25T19:02:08Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Every season seems to have a player who should be a total no-brainer, neon-sign-over-their-head choice for everybody else to vote out, yet somehow they never do. This season it’s Wardog. I’d say he’s the odds-on favorite for the million at this point.

I stand corrected. I guess he overplayed his hand one too many times. Kudos to Wardog, though, for going out with some class and a bit of humor.

I’m not even sure whom I want to root for at this point. Probably Devens, but I’m conflicted because he wouldn’t even be in the game if not for the Loser Island thing, which is terrible. The couple of players I like (Lauren, Julie, sorta Gavin), haven’t done anything to warrant winning. Ron has played the hardest, and probably has played the best strategic game, but I just don’t like the guy. I suppose I won’t be too mad if he wins; he will have earned it. But yeah, I’m kind of ‘meh’ on this whole group from here on out.

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**Author:** ![Rough\_Draft](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@Rough\_Draft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rough_Draft)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/133 "2019-04-25T20:32:59Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I stand corrected. I guess he overplayed his hand one too many times. Kudos to Wardog, though, for going out with some class and a bit of humor.
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> I’m not even sure whom I want to root for at this point. Probably Devens, but I’m conflicted because he wouldn’t even be in the game if not for the Loser Island thing, which is terrible. The couple of players I like (Lauren, Julie, sorta Gavin), haven’t done anything to warrant winning. Ron has played the hardest, and probably has played the best strategic game, but I just don’t like the guy. I suppose I won’t be too mad if he wins; he will have earned it. But yeah, I’m kind of ‘meh’ on this whole group from here on out.

I agree almost completely with this, except I’d give Lauren the edge for second choice just because she’s so… magnificent. I know it’s a shallow criteria for choosing favorites, but what else is there this season?

Oh, and regarding Extinction Island, I’d be happy if Joe or Aubry came back and won it all.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/134 "2019-04-25T21:58:07Z")

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> [@Rough\_Draft](#):
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> Oh, and regarding Extinction Island, I’d be happy if Joe or Aubry came back and won it all.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that’s still on the table. Hell, if Reem wins her way back in and ends up winning it all because the jury wants to stick it to everyone else, I’ll think “Serves them right for coming up with this ridiculous format.”

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/135 "2019-04-25T23:44:42Z")

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I don’t think this has been mentioned in this thread, but Ron Clark is the subject of this TV Movie. Matthew Perry starred in the movie as Ron Clark.

> **[The Ron Clark Story (TV Movie 2006) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473389/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)**
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> The Ron Clark Story (TV Movie 2006) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/136 "2019-04-26T03:40:08Z")

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People kept saying all week that Wardog blew up his own spot on the last episode, and that sure looks to have been correct.

> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Hell, if Reem wins her way back in and ends up winning it all because the jury wants to stick it to everyone else, I’ll think “Serves them right for coming up with this ridiculous format.”

OMG, that would be hilarious. I don’t hate the idea of giving people a second chance as much as most fans seem to, in part because I like Rick so much. But it should be within a reasonably short period of time as it was for him. For someone like Reem to come back makes no sense.

BTW, did you see how dark she is getting? No wonder she warned Kelly about the sun.

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**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/137 "2019-04-26T06:37:16Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I don’t think this has been mentioned in this thread, but Ron Clark is the subject of this TV Movie. Matthew Perry starred in the movie as Ron Clark.
> 
> [The Ron Clark Story (TV Movie 2006) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473389/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)

Wow. Kudos to you, Ron Clark. You really have my admiration.

You didn’t have to blindside Joe, though. :mad:

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/138 "2019-04-26T08:08:35Z")

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Didn’t he, though? And was it really a blindside? I tweeted as soon as Joe lost the immunity challenge that they would be crazy not to take the opportunity to get him out.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/139 "2019-04-26T11:59:25Z")

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Does anyone have any thoughts as to how the Edge players will get back in? I mean, they’re all on the jury now, so they have a good idea as to what is going on in the game, but how will that play into one (just one?) of them returning?

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but has anyone else noticed that during TC, when Jeff says, “we’ll now bring in the members of our jury” he DOESN’T mention each jury members’ name? Is this because they’re not “true” members of the jury yet?

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-38-edge-of-extinction-premieres-wednesday/829774/140 "2019-04-26T13:18:57Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> Does anyone have any thoughts as to how the Edge players will get back in? I mean, they’re all on the jury now, so they have a good idea as to what is going on in the game, but how will that play into one (just one?) of them returning?

I’m praying that the final twist of EoE is that they don’t actually have another chance to get back into the game. That they’re just making them sit there starving & devoloping more intense body odor instead of sipping mai tais by the pool at a fancy resort.

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