# Survivor 39 (Island of the Idols) debuts 9/25/19!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437 "2019-09-18T15:26:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/61 "2019-10-18T14:38:13Z")

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Noura has crazy eyes.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/62 "2019-10-18T14:52:56Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Noura’s cover story was so idiotic, she would’ve been better off just saying “Hey guys, can I be the caller? Just because…”

Yes, she should have just pushed hard to be the caller.

No way this show does not tell them to try to keep Rob and Sandra secret. It’s clear that is happening.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/63 "2019-10-18T15:08:25Z")

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Yeah, it’s weird they don’t make it clear the Rob and Sandra are a secret. It’s obvious.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/64 "2019-10-18T15:23:37Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Nobody said it out loud, but I’m wondering if Noura’s tribe thought that there was an immunity idol hidden somewhere at the challenge, and Noura wanted to be the caller so she could get it. So they booted her from the challenge completely so she would have no opportunity to find it.

I think that’s what I would’ve thought too. I love how quickly they saw through her BS.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/65 "2019-10-18T15:39:30Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I think that’s what I would’ve thought too. I love how quickly they saw through her BS.

There was so much wrong with her “story”. The main one in my eyes is that she was promising a benefit to the tribe without clearly spelling out what that was. She’s not well liked anyway. Bullshit story, might have an idol, don’t like your bitching around camp… yeah, you’re not calling. Plus she proved she sucked at it in practice.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/66 "2019-10-18T15:44:10Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> There was so much wrong with her “story”. The main one in my eyes is that she was promising a benefit to the tribe without clearly spelling out what that was. She’s not well liked anyway. Bullshit story, might have an idol, don’t like your bitching around camp… yeah, you’re not calling. Plus she proved she sucked at it in practice.

I would’ve laughed my ass off if she had been made the caller, they lose, and she gets voted out. The “extra vote” or “block a vote” advantage is only good if you have an alliance to work with.

On the other side, I was disappointed with Sandra’s comment about Elaine not having any idea what’s going on at tribal. An experienced player like her should be able to see the difference between someone actually not knowing what’s going on (like Dean) and someone just pretending.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/67 "2019-10-18T15:59:26Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I remember feeling like the alliance deal was an unfortunate subversion of the spirit of the game. Now I can’t imagine the show without alliances.

Alliances never bothered me because I enjoy watching them crumble. And they always crumble.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/68 "2019-10-18T16:01:30Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> Alliances never bothered me because I enjoy watching them crumble. And they always crumble.

Speaking of which, the all-women alliance has done a pretty good job of taking out their own allies.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/69 "2019-10-18T16:06:36Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Yeah, it’s weird they don’t make it clear the Rob and Sandra are a secret. It’s obvious.

It’s not a rule but they suggest it.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/70 "2019-10-18T16:10:07Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Yeah, it’s weird they don’t make it clear the Rob and Sandra are a secret. It’s obvious.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It’s not a rule but they suggest it.

They’ve got to break the dam eventually. I’m guessing at the merge everyone will know.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/71 "2019-10-18T17:35:27Z")

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Noura is getting the Bat-shit Crazy edit. Remember Ben “Coach” Wade, Special Agent Phillip Shepard, and Debbie (dozens of occupations) Wanner?

They all stayed for a long time in their first season. I think we will see Noura stick around for awhile. I hope so, she is great entertainment.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/72 "2019-10-18T18:16:02Z")

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Noura spinning that yarn was hilariously awful. So fishy, of course sitting her out was the thing to do.

She really did give them an advantage though. Being ready for a challenge like that is pretty handy and I wonder if they would have come up with that killer “stick together at first” strategy if they hadn’t had time to think it over.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/73 "2019-10-18T18:19:27Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> She really did give them an advantage though. Being ready for a challenge like that is pretty handy and I wonder if they would have come up with that killer “stick together at first” strategy if they hadn’t had time to think it over.

That did seem a little unfair since they’re just flipping back and forth between tribes for Island of the Idols. It should have been more vague like “You have to make yourself the leader for the next challenge.”

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/74 "2019-10-18T20:45:48Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Nobody said it out loud, but I’m wondering if Noura’s tribe thought that there was an immunity idol hidden somewhere at the challenge, and Noura wanted to be the caller so she could get it. So they booted her from the challenge completely so she would have no opportunity to find it.

Good point. Or just short-circuit whatever she was scheming.

Not often you see someone get so openly and aggressively thwarted like that. She’s lucky they won the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/75 "2019-10-18T22:15:22Z")

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The whole Noura saga, from the moment she set foot on IotI, was hilarious. I don’t even think the editors had to work too hard to make it hilarious.  
Often I root for the crazy people to be voted off, as they can be annoying or even painful to watch. But Noura seems like a harmless brand of crazy, and is quite entertaining. I hope she sticks around for a while. I could even see her making it all the way to the end as somebody’s goat.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/76 "2019-10-18T22:24:00Z")

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They should aim either for goat or to be voted off before making the jury, because they have burned her as far as voting for anyone on that tribe at the end.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/77 "2019-10-19T02:18:18Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Noura is getting the Bat-shit Crazy edit. Remember Ben “Coach” Wade, Special Agent Phillip Shepard, and Debbie (dozens of occupations) Wanner?
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> They all stayed for a long time in their first season. I think we will see Noura stick around for awhile. I hope so, she is great entertainment.

I mention this I every Survivor thread, but I want a season to be all returning players who were crazy, call it Goat Island.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/78 "2019-10-19T03:21:27Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I mention this I every Survivor thread, but I want a season to be all returning players who were crazy, call it Goat Island.

Who will be on it? Phillip the Federal agent, Coach, Noura…who else?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/79 "2019-10-19T07:53:19Z")

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Yeah, Noura, Coach, Philip and Reem from last season. Then there was Russel Hanz’ nephew who creeped everyone out so much they voted him off without going to tribal. It would probably only be interesting for a couple of episodes, then you’d feel bad for watching.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-39-island-of-the-idols-debuts-9-25-19/840437/80 "2019-10-19T08:00:19Z")

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Missed the edit, but also Erik the ice cream scooper.

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