# Survivor 4/15: After the Merge **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156 "2004-04-15T13:07:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/41 "2004-04-16T17:54:56Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Well, these people continue to be mind-bogglingly stupid, or else have just flat out ceded the game to Rob and Amber. Exactly. And for this very reason, last night was my last night wasting another moment on Snorevivor this season. The only thing that will get me to tune back in is if I read here that Rob and Amber have been voted off. Otherwise, I refuse to let myself be angered and frustrated watching a bunch of stupid freaking idiots allowing themselves to be played by that mysogynist creep. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/42 "2004-04-16T18:43:04Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > Did anyone else notice, during the videos from home part of the show, that Alicia’s mom appears to be white? > > Neat! I’d never heard Alicia was mixed-race, and never would have guessed it to look at her. I figured that she was adopted. Not that it matters, but I noticed that too. These shows always get to me. It’s blatant manipulation, but I get teary every time. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/43 "2004-04-16T18:50:56Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Exactly. And for this very reason, last night was my last night wasting another moment on Snorevivor this season. The only thing that will get me to tune back in is if I read here that Rob and Amber have been voted off. Otherwise, I refuse to let myself be angered and frustrated watching a bunch of stupid freaking idiots allowing themselves to be played by that mysogynist creep. **Shayna** , I couldn’t agree more. He **is** a creep, and the season has been horribly frustrating, because while I think he’s a good player, I can not root for him on general principles. Of course, I’ll keep watching, because: (1) there’s always the possibility that someone will do something to wipe the smirk off of his face at some point, however dim; and (2) reality television owns my entire household. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/44 "2004-04-16T18:55:25Z")
> [@whiterabbit](#): > > I figured that she was adopted. Not that it matters, but I noticed that too. > > These shows always get to me. It’s blatant manipulation, but I get teary every time. Damn. I thought adoption as well, until I looked a little more closely at her mother. They’re nearly IDENTICAL, just different skin tones (and hair). Count me in as well with the teary-eyedness. And to boot, I flipped channels right when the show was over and it was the final scene of _The Rookie_. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/45 "2004-04-16T19:29:41Z")
What did Shii Ann screw up in her first go around that people are reffering to? ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/46 "2004-04-16T19:49:03Z")
> [@BabaBooey](#): > > What did Shii Ann screw up in her first go around that people are reffering to? Ahh, poor, misguided Shii Ann. Hers is a tale of woe and stupidity. Mostly the latter. Shii Ann was originally featured on Survivor: Thailand. Here is the summary as posted on [CBS.com](http://CBS.com), since I can’t summarize it any better: > [@](#): > > On night 21, after an eye-opening Tribal Council, Shii Ann Huang, the 28-year-old executive recruiter from New York City, was voted out of the Sook Jai tribe 4 votes to 1. After the two tribes moved to the same beach, Shii Ann and the others had assumed that a merge had occurred. She considered jumping ship on her Sook Jai tribe members and forming a voting block with Chuay Gahn. However, her plans were foiled as the castaways’ assumptions were once again proven wrong, and the two tribes remained separate. > > After her torch was extinguished, Shii Ann gave her final words: “Well, I committed the classic error of plotting and scheming too much.” As others have said, the look on Shii Ann’s face when Jeff said, “I never said anything about a merge,” was priceless. She knew how screwed she was. And there you have it. Assumptive gaming led to her downfall. I believe the same thing will lead to her end this time as well. Not that it really matters. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/47 "2004-04-16T23:35:52Z")
> [@Chastain86](#): > > Ahh, poor, misguided Shii Ann. Hers is a tale of woe and stupidity. Mostly the latter. … [T]here you have it. Assumptive gaming led to her downfall. I believe the same thing will lead to her end this time as well. Not that it really matters. She’s no less stupid this time around, but at least she is trying to stay under the radar as much as possible, and she is keeping her mouth shut. Well, most of the time, anyway. Although, from the previews of next week, it looks like that will end soon … ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/48 "2004-04-17T06:29:15Z")
> [@](#): > > If I had been Kathy, what I would have done is this: I would have gone to tribal council, and at some point just before the vote, I would have told Jeff that I had something to say. Then I would have said something like the following - I agree completely. I figured Lex should have tried this last episode. If it were me, I’d stand up in the middle of Tribal Council and ask, “Show of hands. Is there anyone here that Rob hasn’t promised to take into the final four? Do the math people.” That said, Rob is making himself a target. Those people who consider him a genius despite this might want to go reread the similar comments that were being made about Richard Hatch a few weeks back. Being obnoxious and arrogant is not a game winning strategy. My guess on Rob’s strategy is that he plans on taking Amber into the final two. He’ll try to play the “you hate me but I’m a great player” line but even if that fails, he’ll get $100,000 and a crack at Amber’s million. So the biggest factor is his plans right now is to continue winning immunity, protecting his woman, making sure nobody forms a rebel alliance, and bringing somebody he figures he can beat into the final three endurance challenge. So maybe he really is telling Alecia the truth about taking her all the way (although personally I’d see Jenna as a safer bet). ---
**Author:** ![Ripley2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@Ripley2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ripley2004)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/49 "2004-04-17T07:58:25Z")
> [@AbbySthrnAccent](#): > > Does anyone know why Jenna wants her daughters to sign? I believe one of her daughters is deaf or partially deaf. She is also missing one hand, poor thing. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2004, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/50 "2004-04-19T06:09:15Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > My guess on Rob’s strategy is that he plans on taking Amber into the final two. He’ll try to play the “you hate me but I’m a great player” line but even if that fails, he’ll get $100,000 and a crack at Amber’s million. So the biggest factor is his plans right now is to continue winning immunity, protecting his woman, making sure nobody forms a rebel alliance, and bringing somebody he figures he can beat into the final three endurance challenge. So maybe he really is telling Alecia the truth about taking her all the way (although personally I’d see Jenna as a safer bet). And wouldn’t it be great if Amber was just playing him? If Rob makes it to the final two with Amber I would love to see her win and then dump his ass. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/51 "2004-04-19T14:22:12Z")
> [@misstee](#): > > And wouldn’t it be great if Amber was just playing him? If Rob makes it to the final two with Amber I would love to see her win and then dump his ass. I realize you are pretty knowledgeable about Survivor, **misstee** , but I feel I’d be remiss if I didn’t tell you: Wishing for Amber Brkich to win Survivor: All-Stars is the little-seen Eighth Sign of the Apocalypse. :mad: Please turn in your Survivor street cred. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2004, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/52 "2004-04-19T14:50:58Z")
> [@Chastain86](#): > > I realize you are pretty knowledgeable about Survivor, **misstee** , but I feel I’d be remiss if I didn’t tell you: > > Wishing for Amber Brkich to win Survivor: All-Stars is the little-seen Eighth Sign of the Apocalypse. :mad: > > Please turn in your Survivor street cred. NO NO NO NO I didn’t mean I wanted Amber to win, I meant that if it came down to Amber and Rob, I prefer it to be her. I loathe Rob. I really _wanted_ Colby to win. Now I would settle for Rupert or Alicia. ---
**Author:** ![AbbySthrnAccent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@AbbySthrnAccent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AbbySthrnAccent)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156/53 "2004-04-19T14:56:32Z")
Thanks **Ripley2004** , I didn’t know and was touched to seem them signing as they sang in their video to her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-15-after-the-merge/240156.md?page=2)