# Survivor 4/20: Rice Wars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153 "2011-04-21T00:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/41 "2011-04-21T15:43:22Z")
I wonder when they will abandon RI for the last time and fold that Survivor back into the tribe? Will they drop that person into the Final Five? That could get bloody. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/42 "2011-04-21T15:48:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I wonder when they will abandon RI for the last time and fold that Survivor back into the tribe? Will they drop that person into the Final Five? That could get bloody. I hope that RI does not spill one “Survivor” into the final 3… ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/43 "2011-04-21T16:08:13Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Why did Julie admit to hiding Phillip’s pants? Because Jeff asked? She was under no obligation to fess up. I wondered that, too. I would have loved for it to be kept secret, just to see that shithead, Phil, dig a deeper hole. I think he spent the last ten years in a mental institution with Napoleon. What a colossal ass. Prediction: the next one to go is Grant. He and Matt are the ones Rob has to fear the most. And Rob knows that at some point, his crew will have to turn on him. It would be hilarious if the girls were standing at the end, since they’ve done nothing except hide under Rob’s wing. If Matt makes it to the end, I can’t see how he doesn’t win the million. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/44 "2011-04-21T16:45:07Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It would be hilarious if the girls were standing at the end Wow. That’s a strong possibility. Who do you vote for? Would it be the worst Survivor ever? In a Survivor where Russell gets beat at his own game, Rob dominates and controls everything except the final regular TC, and you’re left with Hear No Evil, See No Evil, and Speak No Evil - who wins? Ugh. I don’t want to think about it. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/45 "2011-04-21T16:45:11Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > I hope that RI does not spill one “Survivor” into the final 3… According to Probst about the RI & the ‘final episode’: The final episode will have eight people still vying for a shot at winning. Eh. :dubious: I usually try to find the best in each season (pre-merge, post-merge, post-pagong, ponderosa even) This may be the first season I’m having a hard time finding anything good to say:( Here’s hoping the end-game gets interesting! ---
**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/46 "2011-04-21T18:18:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Next time he is without those pink tighties, someone needs to hide those and return his trunks. The problem is multiplied by the fact that they aren’t tighties anymore. More like loosies. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/47 "2011-04-22T02:47:42Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > Sending Steve just sent a similar physical threat to what was already there (Mike), sending Julie sent a different skill set that may be able to beat Matt if Mike can’t. This would make sense if only the winner of the duel stays and the other two go home. But if a single loser goes home, then Matt needs only to take second like he did in this week’s duel. Which is easier if he is sandwiched by the other two, skills-wise. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/48 "2011-04-22T21:33:05Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > They’re both masters of an un-googleable martial art as well. Phillip said “Wing Chun”, but the closed captioning said “Wang Chung”. Good for a chuckle 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Amasia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Amasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amasia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/49 "2011-04-22T22:24:05Z")
> [@JXJohns](#): > > The problem is multiplied by the fact that they aren’t tighties anymore. More like loosies. I completely agree, but can’t decide if it’d be worse if they were actual tighties. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/50 "2011-04-23T18:08:50Z")
They need to get Rob out. Now. Or at least as soon as he doesn’t have the II. He needs to be blindsided before he can play his HII. It’s 100% certain he gets the $1M if he makes it to the end. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/51 "2011-04-23T18:53:55Z")
Kinda unfortunate that this season turned into a Pagonging. I think Zapatera had a group of people that would’ve had a lot more backstabbing and strategy if they had the advantage after the merge; whereas Rob has completely controlled his tribe and has them all following his decisions to the hilt. We’ve barely seen anything from Grant and the three girls. Obviously not knowing what will happen with Redemption Island throws things off, but I agree with **John Mace** : Rob just needs to blindside Grant, keep Phillip and Natalie on his side, possibly play the idol at the right time if needed and he wins the million easily. I love Rob, but he hasn’t been challenged in this game since the first weeks. I almost kinda wish Russell was still around to give him a challenge. (Almost). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/52 "2011-04-23T20:32:20Z")
It would be funny if Philip’s whole deal is just an act to get him to the Final 3. Then, he turns into this utterly normal guy and says the whole "special agent’ thing was a lie to make his character seem even nuttier. I don’t think it would do him any good against Rob, but he might sway a few votes if Rob gets booted. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/53 "2011-04-23T20:33:49Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > They need to get Rob out. Now. Or at least as soon as he doesn’t have the II. He needs to be blindsided before he can play his HII. It’s 100% certain he gets the $1M if he makes it to the end. Yes. I think it’s between Grant and Rob. The one who blindsides the other wins. Except for those two girls. As the numbers dwindle their unified votes become stronger and stronger. After this next vote they need to form an alliance with anyone they can blindside someone. If they’re smart, they’ll grab Phil. Even if they make it to the final, he’s the only one either of them can beat for the money. Still, if Matt makes it to the finals, I see him winning. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/54 "2011-04-23T20:38:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It would be funny if Philip’s whole deal is just an act to get him to the Final 3. Then, he turns into this utterly normal guy and says the whole "special agent’ thing was a lie to make his character seem even nuttier. > > I don’t think it would do him any good against Rob, but he might sway a few votes if Rob gets booted. Ha! If he’s that good an actor he doesn’t need that million. Hollywood will be banging at his door. I think it more likely that as soon as he’s voted off and snuffs out his torch he walks into the arms of two large men in white suits holding a straightjacket. “There you are. You sholdn’t have run away again. Nurse Ratchit was very concerned about you.” ANd then he turns and goes all Hannibal Lecter on Probst. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/55 "2011-04-23T21:21:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It would be funny if Philip’s whole deal is just an act to get him to the Final 3. Then, he turns into this utterly normal guy and says the whole "special agent’ thing was a lie to make his character seem even nuttier. > > I don’t think it would do him any good against Rob, but he might sway a few votes if Rob gets booted. If you look at his resume on his LinkedIn page, he obviously has more on the ball than what we are seeing. He has worked for some impressive tech companies, and has his own business selling enterprise software. That’s not like selling cars, you really have to be on the ball to sell million dollar software packages. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/56 "2011-04-23T21:30:55Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > If you look at his resume on his LinkedIn page, he obviously has more on the ball than what we are seeing. He has worked for some impressive tech companies, and has his own business selling enterprise software. That’s not like selling cars, you really have to be on the ball to sell million dollar software packages. I checked that you as well. I also noticed that he had many jobs where he stayed just a year. I could see him getting hired and then everyone demanding he be gone. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/57 "2011-04-24T19:15:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > They need to get Rob out. Now. Or at least as soon as he doesn’t have the II. He needs to be blindsided before he can play his HII. It’s 100% certain he gets the $1M if he makes it to the end. The interesting thing is that no one knows he has the HII… does anyone know the last week one can play the HII this season? ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/58 "2011-04-24T20:18:15Z")
Pagongings are so boring. I wish the producers would figure out ways to shake things up when they see a Pagonging underway. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/59 "2011-04-24T22:08:58Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > The interesting thing is that no one knows he has the HII… does anyone know the last week one can play the HII this season? I bet that once everyone from Zapatera gets voted off, Rob will show Natalie and Philip the HII. That way he’ll not only earn their trust, but will also scare them from trying to vote against him. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/60 "2011-04-24T22:48:03Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > I bet that once everyone from Zapatera gets voted off, Rob will show Natalie and Philip the HII. That way he’ll not only earn their trust, but will also scare them from trying to vote against him. Unless Grant mentions it after he gets blindsided and says, after he snuffs out his torch, “By the way, Rob has had an HII for (6 weeks(?))”. That would screw him up but good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153.md?page=4)