# Survivor 4/20: Rice Wars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153 "2011-04-21T00:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/61 "2011-04-24T22:51:51Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Unless Grant mentions it after he gets blindsided and says, after he snuffs out his torch, “By the way, Rob has had an HII for (6 weeks(?))”. That would screw him up but good. But Grant _doesn’t_ know that Rob has the Idol. As far as he knows, he and Rob are collaboarting to look for the Idol based solely on the first, useless, clue that Rob got alone and switched in for clue #2. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/62 "2011-04-24T22:52:21Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Unless Grant mentions it after he gets blindsided and says, after he snuffs out his torch, “By the way, Rob has had an HII for (6 weeks(?))”. That would screw him up but good. Grant doesn’t know with any certainty that Rob has the Idol. They both saw the clue, but Rob kept the Idol to himself. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/63 "2011-04-26T15:21:48Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > Pagongings are so boring. I wish the producers would figure out ways to shake things up when they see a Pagonging underway. the entire show is named after it. inexplicably however, the swing vote didn’t go off as expected. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/64 "2011-04-26T20:00:05Z")
It’s hard to predict when a Pagong will happen. For example, in Russell’s first season, his tribe merged down 4 to 8, and it was pretty clear they were on the way out. Instead, they ended up voting out that entire 8 person tribe. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/65 "2011-04-27T03:00:15Z")
yeah, it’s hard to predict what people would do. they created a wildcard whom you would expect to shake up the game and reserved the decision to play it exactly when the numbers would be even against even, and what happened? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/66 "2011-04-27T04:23:37Z")
At what point do the former Zapha . . . Zarpta . . . Saphatera (Sorry. I have a dry mouth.) tribe members realize that throwing the challenge to get Russell out may have been a really bad idea? Could anyone other than Russell get BR voted off? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/67 "2011-04-27T13:44:47Z")
Can you imagine how ugly Russell’s armpits would look at this point? He’d be a giant boil. They did that man (and us) a favor. ---
**Author:** ![dflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dflower/32/3270_2.png) [@dflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dflower)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/68 "2011-04-27T19:05:57Z")
If this has been mentioned before forgive me I think that Phil is a plant, not a real contestant. He is an actor that the producers have planted in the show with a scripted character and plot. No way is he real. Why the question mark after “former federal agent?” How crazy can one be and still be selected for the show? And he gets stranger all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153/69 "2011-04-27T19:46:22Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > Phillip said “Wing Chun”, but the closed captioning said “Wang Chung”. Good for a chuckle 🙂 > [@muldoonthief](#): > > They’re both masters of an un-googleable martial art as well. > **[Wing Chun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Chun)** > > Wing Chun (Cantonese) or Yong Chun (Mandarin) (traditional Chinese: 詠春; simplified Chinese: 咏春, lit. "singing spring") is a concept-based martial art\[clarification needed\], a form of Southern Chinese kung fu, and a close-quarters system of self-defense. It is a martial arts style characterized by its focus on close-quarters hand-to-hand combat, rapid-fire punches, and straightforward efficiency. It has a philosophy that emphasizes capturing and sticking to an opponent's centerline. This is acc Wi... Worked fine for me, but I Bing’ed. Maybe it is a Microsoft martial art? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-20-rice-wars/579153.md?page=3)