# Survivor 4/23/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170 "2009-04-24T00:52:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/41 "2009-04-24T22:26:52Z")
I forgot one point I wanted to make. That was an unfair immunity challenge. Basically who ever went dead last had the best chance of winning by just hitting whoever was closest. I didn’t seem slick enough to go bouncing off in another direction. It would have been better to have mulitple scoring zones and go by whoever had the high score. Or have as many rounds as there were people, mark the location of the closest person and clear the board after each round. ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/42 "2009-04-24T22:57:43Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I forgot one point I wanted to make. That was an unfair immunity challenge. Basically who ever went dead last had the best chance of winning by just hitting whoever was closest. I didn’t seem slick enough to go bouncing off in another direction. Well, the water clearly made it a completely different challenge than what the producers intended. But still, I totally agree, I even said that to my TV as whatsherface came up to take that last shot when Sierra had the winning position. Given that the goal for essentially everyone at that point was to make sure Sierra didn’t win, whatsherface didn’t even have to try to win, she just had to try to knock Sierra’s disk away. Very, very unfair of the Survivor producers to use that for an immunity challenge. It would have been a bit less unfair for a reward challenge (just because less is at stake), but still, a very bad choice of game all around. Too much depended on just the dumb luck of the order drawn. Personally (as long as I’m ranting) I think that all the individual immunity challenges should have a strong component of determination and perseverance, rather than just skill at some particular task. The person who really needs it should have at least some reasonable chance to win it through force of will. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/43 "2009-04-24T23:14:13Z")
It seems like the producers thought they had it figured out, by rotating the order each round. They just didn’t have it all thought out. I mentioned this a few episodes back, but next episode would be perfect for a “knock the other contestants” out challenge, either for reward or immunity. It always reveals a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/44 "2009-04-25T04:46:44Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I mentioned this a few episodes back, but next episode would be perfect for a “knock the other contestants” out challenge, either for reward or immunity. It always reveals a lot. Why those are always fun, I think this year’s batch has the knockout order figured out and are constantly changing up the alliances so that doesn’t happen. Mark my words, Erinn makes final 3 and maybe final 2. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/45 "2009-04-25T04:53:15Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Why those are always fun, I think this year’s batch has the knockout order figured out and are constantly changing up the alliances so that doesn’t happen. > > Mark my words, Erinn makes final 3 and maybe final 2. At least final four, depends on which alliance pulls through after the next episode. She’s enough of a schemer to keep herself in the game, but not enough to be seen as a threat. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/46 "2009-04-27T15:11:48Z")
As always, Dalton Ross’s [blog](http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20274595,00.html) is lots of fun. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/47 "2009-04-28T01:20:43Z")
Heh. I love Tyson & Coach. Tyson’s got the best snark and Coach is just fun to watch. The show’s going to get boring fast when they’re both gone. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/48 "2009-04-28T05:28:15Z")
So, let’s see…next they have to blindside JT, who is much more of a challenge threat than coach. ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170/49 "2009-05-01T13:56:32Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > From what I understand in previous seasons, once the votes are cast, they take the container back with the producers. They all look at the votes and decide what is the most dramatic way to present them to the Survivors. They said that the lag in between votes being cast and being revealed can be as much as 45 minutes. I don’t remember where I saw this, maybe the Survivor special from VH1 a couple of years back? I meant to respond to this last week, but I completely forgot. I know Bruce Kanegai. I’ll ask him about it next time I see him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-23-09/494170.md?page=2)