This is the funniest post in this thread. Not that I talk to my cats or anything. No, no, not me.
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### Author:  [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/84 "2005-04-08T18:53:01Z")
> [@monster](#):
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> This is the funniest post in this thread. Not that I talk to my cats or anything. No, no, not me.
Nope, me neither. Nuh-uh. Not me.
Incidentally, Khan is rooting for Ian right along with me, but Sirius seems to think that Coby’s got a dark horse thing going on. 🙂
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/85 "2005-04-08T18:55:47Z")
Apart from whether she wins or not, we need to give Steph a medal. I felt so sorry for her being sent back to camp alone, but I also thought she’s one of the few Survivors who’d be OK with it and in some sense it’s a vindication-- that she Survived the Ulong disaster. What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger. 🙂
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### Author:  [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/86 "2005-04-08T18:55:56Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> But as I watched, it looked like a good strategy (if it was planned). The torches did not seem to be that high. By putting wood down first, Stephanie basically built a platform to move the faster-burning coconut husks closer to the torch.
I think Steph figured out to blow on the fire too to get it to go higher. I’m not sure Bobby Jon did.
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### Author:  [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/87 "2005-04-08T19:06:12Z")
I think BJ figured it out once Jeff mentioned Steph blowing on her fire.
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### Author:  [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/88 "2005-04-08T19:30:05Z")
Oh, so BJ figured it out once Jeff mentioned it? I wonder if he would have figured it out on his own? I agree with **brownie55** I wish Jeff would stay out of the challenges.
It was perfectly legal for Steph to look at Koror’s board. It was a mistake by Koror not to cover it up once they were done. They didn’t have to pay for that mistake though, once Jeff so helpfully pointed it out. Shut up already! Grabbing that extra edge doing something your opponent might not have figured out is an aspect of the game.
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### Author:  [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/89 "2005-04-08T19:52:18Z")
> [@Draelin](#):
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> … but Sirius seems to think …
Whoa, whoa, WHOA! You named your cat after the DOG star? And s/h/it is OK with that?
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### Author:  [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/90 "2005-04-08T19:54:55Z")
> [@rockle](#):
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> Whoa, whoa, WHOA! You named your cat after the DOG star? And s/h/it is OK with that?
No, I named him after the Harry Potter character, because he’s _black_. 🙂 And he’s just fine with it. In fact, _he_ is the one who picked it in the first place. I threw a bunch of names out there, and Sirius is the only one he mewed at.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/91 "2005-04-08T20:14:49Z")
Is the egg really a closed system? I mean, isn’t it getting energy from the sun (through the shell as heat), which helps it to undergo chemical changes and thereby possibly a change in the nutrition value?
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### Author:  [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/92 "2005-04-08T20:53:45Z")
> [@rockle](#):
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> Do you mean Ian? _gush, pant, swoon__ **Hell no!** _ There’s a whole Cult of us around here (including **Draelin** , **BiblioCat** , and myself [among many others, I am sure]) who _lurve_ him completely and want to have his babies and stuff, or at least be his sex slaves. Looks like we might have gotten our wish this week: the producers really have no choice but to show our much-beloved now. But riddle me this, Batman – _what is sound of one Ulong sucking?_
No, I was quoting your Bobby line. Though both are VERY skinny for my tastes, Bobby has a cute little nose and is a _hard worker_ which I really like. Now the dumb…not so much. (the burping and snot blowing I could live without, too)
Ian does nothing for me (don’t kill me, ladies!) I think it’s a combination of how dirty his glasses seem to be and his skinniness.
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### Author:  [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/93 "2005-04-08T21:17:05Z")
> [@](#):
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> I think it’s a combination of how dirty his glasses seem to be and his skinniness.
His poor glasses. I feel sorry for the guy, having to look through those day and night. Salt spray is amazing stuff-- it gets on everything and is damn near IMPOSSIBLE to clean off (although, maybe he can now, with all that soap).
What a great episode. I wish there was some footage of Steph managing the canoe all by herself. She’s going to be exhausted next time she squares off against Koror. I really hope she continues in the game somehow, but I don’t see how it’s going to happen.
Katie annoys the piss out of me. I can’t wait for her to get kicked off.
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### Author:  [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/94 "2005-04-08T21:20:50Z")
> [@Jaade](#):
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> (the burping and snot blowing I could live without, too)
Gah, I had almost gotten the snot blowing images out of my head. I realize they don’t have any Kleenex out in the wilderness, but do you have to show us, _multiple times_, geysers of snot pluming out of this guys nose? Ech.
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### Author:  [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/95 "2005-04-08T21:25:54Z")
> [@Liberal](#):
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> Is the egg really a closed system? I mean, isn’t it getting energy from the sun (through the shell as heat), which helps it to undergo chemical changes and thereby possibly a change in the nutrition value?
IANAOrnithologist, but I doubt that a bird can convert heat (whether from the sun or from mama’s butt) into anything useful. Or that the changes that occur within the egg add anything to the mass (does a newly hatched chick weigh the same as an egg?); or that the conversion of the existing mass from liquid yolk & white to feathery solid changes the protein content.
Good question, though. Somebody should put this on GQ.
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/96 "2005-04-08T21:39:27Z")
Does the nutritional value have to change? Is there a nutritional difference between a raw peanut and a roasted one? The flavor is apparently different between _balut_ and a regular egg, as well as the texture, and I’d think that, to a people who don’t even know what a calorie is (as they probably didn’t back when _balut_ entered their culinary tradition), that’s more than enough reason to start eating it.
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### Author:  [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/97 "2005-04-08T21:56:23Z")
> [@jayjay](#):
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> Does the nutritional value have to change? Is there a nutritional difference between a raw peanut and a roasted one?
Hmmmm…caught me with my culturual biases showing. I assumed that the only reason to deal with the beak & feathers would be that it was better for you than an undeveloped egg. It never occurred to me that people would _prefer_ it.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/98 "2005-04-08T22:22:25Z")
One thing I found quickly with Google was the fact that an eggshell is actually porous, and there is an exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide (oxygen in and carbon dioxide out). Massive chemical changes do occur as the embryo consumes the nutrition and begins to develop its organs. I finally found this study, [Rapid modulation of the n-3 docosahexaenoic acid levels in the brain and retina of the newly hatched chick](http://www.jlr.org/cgi/reprint/30/3/433) (PDF), in which certain nutritional elements of eggs (like oils and fats) were examined from the earliest stages until the chicks were hatched. The newly hatched chicks were killed, and their brains, retinas, hearts, and other organs were examined to determine how the oils and fats were metabolized. Although the purpose of the study was to compare the hen’s diet with the egg’s nutrition, it does show that such things as chemical oxidation take place, changing the chemical (and therefore nutritional) contents of the eggs as the nutrition of the albumen is consumed by the embryo, and converted into wastes like urea and carbon dioxide.
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### Author:  [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/99 "2005-04-08T22:50:02Z")
> [@Liberal](#):
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> …, it does show that such things as chemical oxidation take place, changing the chemical (and therefore nutritional) contents of the eggs as the nutrition of the albumen is consumed by the embryo…
I think there’s a fallacy in your “and therefore nutritional” statement. I am going waaaay out on a limb here, but I don’t think a chemical reaction will change the caloric value of the total egg system at all. The only thing that can convert energy into calories is photosynthesis. For non-plants, the only way to get additional calories is to eat something.
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### Author:  [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-4-7-and-then-there-were-two/298236/100 "2005-04-08T23:08:44Z")
> [@](#):
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> Ian does nothing for me (don’t kill me, ladies!)
Nor me. He’s seems like a nice lad but he’s too young and too skinny for my taste.
The best looking guy ever to appear on Survivor, IMO, was the FBI dude from last season whose name I cannot recall. Hm. Guess he wasn’t that memorable. Colby and Tom may be in a tie for second.
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