# Survivor 46 - open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [February 29, 2024, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267 "2024-02-29T05:59:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/161 "2024-04-25T05:00:06Z")
Ugh. I’m just angry about that. And it’s his own fault but still… There are a couple of people I like but overall this is a very ineffectual group. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/162 "2024-04-25T11:07:31Z")
Kenzie is the person he trusts most? WTH? Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. I really don’t like her. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/163 "2024-04-25T14:07:54Z")
Kenzie is growing on me – she’s funny. Speaking of funny, this exchange: Hunter: … and nobody was mad. Venus: _I_ was mad. Hunter: You’re _always_ mad. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Burden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@Jack\_Burden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Burden)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/164 "2024-04-25T14:36:54Z")
This has become the season of going home with an Idol in your pocket - what is wrong with these people? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/165 "2024-04-25T15:03:23Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Kenzie is growing on me – she’s funny. Me too, at first I didn’t care for her but I’m kind of entertained by her now. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/166 "2024-04-25T15:04:30Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > There are a couple of people I like but overall this is a very ineffectual group. You know how we used to complain about we never really got to know the members of the non-Purple teams at the start? Well, since the merge, we have … and to me they’re mostly unpleasant. At this point I slightly like Ben and Charlie, mostly because they still haven’t been given much air time, I guess because they’re relatively quiet and reserved in comparison to the others. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/167 "2024-04-25T15:04:43Z")
I can understand the conflict between using the idol, and saving it for later if you’re reasonably confident you’re not going home today. But it’s inherent in this game, that counting votes is problematic when everybody’s lying (or, more charitably, withholding information.) ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/168 "2024-04-25T15:15:08Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I can understand the conflict between using the idol, and saving it for later if you’re reasonably confident you’re not going home today. It’s hard to be that reasonably confident. Here’s a clue, if everyone at tribal is trying hard to convince you it’s someone else - it’s you. People like Hunter should never treat idols preciously - they are tools, use them. He should have known, and did know, he was a threat and therefore a potential target. Use the damn thing and go find it again. That was Russell’s strategy and he re-found it after almost every tribal. You cannot go home if you play an idol. Except that one time with a nullifier ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/169 "2024-04-25T15:55:30Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > People like Hunter should never treat idols preciously - they are tools, use them. He should have known, and did know, he was a threat and therefore a potential target. Use the damn thing and go find it again. That was Russell’s strategy and he re-found it after almost every tribal. > > You cannot go home if you play an idol. I can’t believe he didn’t play it. Its just… ::sigh::. Hunter was really entertaining, and had a great outlook. I would have liked to see him go further. He just got too comfortable. AND HOW IN THE NINE HELLS IS Q STILL THERE! UGH. They showed some really good strategizing on here. And the thought processes behind their decicions. “They took my move, and now nobody saw it!”. Wow. Just… wow. And again, the competitions were great. Enjoyed this one - and that they had a chance to help each other. That was really nice. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/170 "2024-04-25T16:30:27Z")
I was hoping that Q or Hunter would lift their partner (Venus or Maria) higher so they would be closer so they could land the ball in the circle easier. Unless Jeff specifically told them it wasn’t against rules before hand. Hunter was great at the survival aspect of the game, but terrible at the social aspect. I hope Maria or Charlie wins. They seem to be the tightest “Ride or Dies”. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/171 "2024-04-25T17:00:12Z")
> [@Noelq](#): > > AND HOW IN THE NINE HELLS IS Q STILL THERE! UGH. Maybe he’s this season’s Phillip? :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/172 "2024-04-26T03:14:56Z")
I will never understand the logic of folks that fail to use their idol when they _know_ they are on the outside. I can _almost_ understand if you are truly blindsided by folks that have been working with you (like if Tiff had gone home with her idol). But Hunter had, as far as I remember, NEVER been on the right side of a vote. In the previous TC, literally **every single person** voted for Tevin except for him and Tevin. He should have trusted absolutely none of them. Until they vote with you, their words mean nothing. We literally saw Venus throwing massive shade at him, basically taunting him, and he takes her word that the vote is Q?!?!? Kenzie is his #1? What-the-actual-fuck is going on here? And he’s a serious fan of the game. He builds challenges. He knows how this works. You get an idol, you play an idol, you get another idol. Tiff is really lucky that her bluff was more believable than Hunter’s. I kinda liked him, but he’s dead to me as a player now. Argh. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/173 "2024-04-26T20:05:19Z")
> [@Jebbilene](#): > > Kenzie is the person he trusts most? WTH? Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. > > I really don’t like her. Yeah, she lies too damn often. > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > You know how we used to complain about we never really got to know the members of the non-Purple teams at the start? Well, since the merge, we have … and to me they’re mostly unpleasant. I liked Hunter, Charlie and Maria. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/174 "2024-04-27T00:50:53Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yeah, she lies too damn often. She enjoyed doing it. That said, she is doing very well. One of the few people whose names have never come up. Often when people say they love the chaos of tribal council, they end up blindsided, but she sat pretty. Charlie seems to be in a good position. Good relationships with everyone, strong in challenges, not compulsively seeking moves left and right. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/175 "2024-04-29T02:20:36Z")
I was a couple weeks behind and just got caught up. Holy cow, what a shitshow. Q offers himself up for sacrifice, totally out of the blue, and the tribe - half of whom wanted him out in the first place - _don’t_ take him up on it. Hunter is certain he’s going to be voted out, but doesn’t play his idol based on last-second reassurances from people he doesn’t trust. There just aren’t enough facepalm emojis. I’m not sure who I’m rooting for. There are a few people I’m rooting _against_. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/176 "2024-04-29T11:36:09Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I’m not sure who I’m rooting for. There are a few people I’m rooting _against_. For me, it’s down to Jack Quaid, which is what I call the younger guy who isn’t offensive in any way. Charlie. I just looked it up and his name is Charlie. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/177 "2024-04-29T19:46:58Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Charlie. I just looked it up and his name is Charlie. And we like Maria, who is like invisible on the show. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/178 "2024-04-30T04:40:36Z")
> [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > This has become the season of going home with an Idol in your pocket - what is wrong with these people? I’m curious about the stats because I think overall more people have gone home with the idol then saved themselves with the idol. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/179 "2024-04-30T04:45:44Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’m curious about the stats because I think overall more people have gone home with the idol then saved themselves with the idol. No, only ten in all survivor history. This season is weird. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-46-open-spoilers/998267/180 "2024-04-30T10:44:39Z")
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