# Survivor 47 (and some bonus info!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [September 18, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415 "2024-09-18T01:21:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/41 "2024-10-10T18:46:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > > > I never understand how they are always “We need strength! Gotta keep the team strong!!” > > Actually, they rarely do that. Disagree, “we need strength” is a common cry when trying to decide who to vote out. Now whether they actually follow their own advise… > [@madmonk28](#): > > I’m always surprised they when they decide to keep the person who had a very public meltdown. Same. It will hurt them. > [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I suggest a rule that says if you tell someone you have an idol, the idol becomes worthless at the next TC. Oh, I don’t know, I kinda like how it puts a target on their back. > [@jsc1953](#): > > As soon as someone tells the camera that he is the mastermind pulling all the strings he’s a dead man walking. The game is waaaay to early for that shit - hell they haven’t even merged yet. > [@Drum\_God](#): > > Have we ever heard of Sol before? I have a feeling he will make it past the Rome issue. If he does he might become a player. And Rome is being a huge dick. > [@notfrommensa](#): > > I thought for sure Rome was going to have a talking head on how he threw the challenge so the tribe could vote out Sol. Since he didn’t, he apparently has never done a jigsaw puzzle. I’m not convinced. A grown adult can’t be that bad. I can’t be convinced he didn’t intentionally throw the challenge. I think he wanted to go to tribal and lord his skill and advantages over everyone else. Otherwise, any rational person would have asked someone else to step in. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/42 "2024-10-10T19:05:01Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Kishan overplayed his hand. Things were about to go down exactly how he wanted, but he couldn’t resist stirring the pot to make himself feel like he was the one making it happen. I feel like the biggest unwritten rule that never gets talked about is “Don’t ever be the one to throw out a ‘decoy’ name.” It always seems to backfire. > [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Otherwise, any rational person would have asked someone else to step in. Well, they can’t switch roles once they’ve started the puzzle, so the only other person who could do it would be Genevieve, who seemed to be content just handing pieces. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/43 "2024-10-11T04:39:05Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > And the editing, between Jeff’s near pleas to let someone else try it, Sol’s continuing ‘wrong piece’ comments, and Roman’s determined attempt to attach every single piece to every single possible position even when matching outies to outies and innies to innies…superb! It should live in television history. My wife insists he threw it, I am claiming he is just that stupid. > [@Noelq](#): > > And the move by Jeanvieve… wow. And, IMHO- stupid. Throwing your name out in a bluff is not a threat. Genevieve made a huge error. Now Rome will continue to be really bad at challenges and will keep bullying poor Sol. > [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I suggest a rule that says if you tell someone you have an idol, the idol becomes worthless at the next TC. Pretty much, everyone does. > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I feel like the biggest unwritten rule that never gets talked about is “Don’t ever be the one to throw out a ‘decoy’ name.” It always seems to backfire. I never heard that. Dont be the the guy who throws out a name for real is a rule, becuase too often it come back to haunt you. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/44 "2024-10-11T12:09:03Z")
Rome is one of my least favorite players in quite awhile. I hope they get rid of him soon. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/45 "2024-10-16T01:02:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Dont be the the guy who throws out a name for real is a rule, becuase too often it come back to haunt you. Which Kishan also did! He broke at least two fundamental Survivor rules: 1. If the vote is not you, do not try to change the vote. I call this the Sandra rule. Kishan was 100% safe until he tried to change things up. 2. Do not throw out a name unless you absolutely have to. Decoy or otherwise. I would add one additional rule - if your alliance mate, on whom you are depending for your plan, says something like “oh, I just sat here and was told was the plan was”… you are in trouble. But really his failure was #1. Never, ever cause chaos if you are safe. Chaos benefits those at risk, not those that are safe. Even more so in this case because it is clear nobody really _likes_ Rome, so he’s a perfect shield at a merge. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/46 "2024-10-17T16:05:07Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone as shocked at a blindside before. Not angry, not upset, but absolutely in shock. She didn’t think for a second it would be coming. This might be the best pre-merge in a long long time. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/47 "2024-10-17T18:32:14Z")
Yep. Total shock on her behalf. Didnt’ see it coming at all. Again, loved the challenges. Both were very well done, and there was a great balance of physical and mental challenges. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/48 "2024-10-18T00:52:47Z")
> [@Noelq](#): > > Again, loved the challenges. Both were very well done, and there was a great balance of physical and mental challenges. I think all episodes should have a reward and immunity challenge. Helps the pacing in these longer episodes. Yeah, she was _mad_. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/49 "2024-10-18T14:20:34Z")
Jeez, I thought they were going to have to call security to drag her off the set. You got beat, sweetie. Tip your hat and try to exit with some dignity intact. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/50 "2024-10-18T14:50:06Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Jeez, I thought they were going to have to call security to drag her off the set. You got beat, sweetie. Tip your hat and try to exit with some dignity intact It’s hard, but that is one thing I would prepare for before going out there. What will I say when voted out, even if shocked? “Wow, shocking. Great game, folks, I wish you all the best. Have fun! Behave!” Something like that makes a good final impression. Mabe, “Jeff, can I have a hug?” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/51 "2024-10-18T14:52:00Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > You got beat, sweetie. Tip your hat and try to exit with some dignity intact. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s hard, but that is one thing I would prepare for before going out there. What will I say when voted out, even if shocked? > > “Wow, shocking. Great game, folks, I wish you all the best. Have fun! Behave!” Nah, we’ve had way too many “Wow, I got played. Good job.” reactions. It’s nice to see some real emotions for once. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/52 "2024-10-18T16:08:49Z")
I almost felt bad for her as she was leaving. She really had no idea that it was coming. Has there ever been a more blind blindside than that one? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/53 "2024-10-18T17:22:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > Jeez, I thought they were going to have to call security to drag her off the set. You got beat, sweetie. Tip your hat and try to exit with some dignity intact > > It’s hard, but that is one thing I would prepare for before going out there. What will I say when voted out, even if shocked? > > “Wow, shocking. Great game, folks, I wish you all the best. Have fun! Behave!” > > Something like that makes a good final impression. > > Mabe, “Jeff, can I have a hug?” Hard disagree. I prefer the _real_ reactions. I want to see someone _actually_ shocked at their elimination, not a fake rehearsed “Oh haha well done you guys! Love you all!” ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/54 "2024-10-18T18:57:20Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > almost felt bad for her as she was leaving. She really had no idea that it was coming. Has there ever been a more blind blindside than that one? As a long time survivor fan, I gotta say, no. Absolutely shocked and stunned. She really had a hard time wrapping her head around that. And I appreciated that the ‘traitors’ fessed up. Honestly, that was a beautiful tribal to watch. > [@Jas09](#): > > But really his failure was #1. Never, ever cause chaos if you are safe. Chaos benefits those at risk, not those that are safe. We call it the Cerie rule. Also known as the ‘As Long As It’s Not Me’ rule. _“Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try it again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb. They refuse. They cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.”_ ~Little Finger (Game of Thrones) Rule #3 - If you find an Idol, keep your mouth shut. The first person you share that info with will spread it like wildfire and a target will appear on your back. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/55 "2024-10-18T20:17:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I think all episodes should have a reward and immunity challenge. Helps the pacing in these longer episodes. I like separate challenges. > [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Rule #3 - If you find an Idol, keep your mouth shut. The first person you share that info with will spread it like wildfire and a target will appear on your back. But some claim that it builds trust. More or less everyone spills the beans anyway. But, I agree, keeping it secret is better in some cases. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/56 "2024-10-18T23:31:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I like separate challenges. We agree. That is what I was saying. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/57 "2024-10-21T23:50:12Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > She really had no idea that it was coming Just caught up with the episode and while I felt bad for her, her lack of any hint it could be her going shows how limited her gameplay was. Truly great players would never have been just sitting there trusting Sierra was telling the truth. Especially when she didn’t have a vote. They would have been hitting up Sam for any tells and hammering Sierra about how it had to be Andy. I’m not sure there was anything she could do, but she clearly didn’t have a very strong episode (even beyond the blindside). ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/58 "2024-10-22T19:58:54Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > I felt bad for her, her lack of any hint it could be her going shows how limited her gameplay was. This is a good point. The very definition of a blindside is targeting a player that feels safe or in control. Complacency and blind trust are deadly in Survivor. > [@DrDeth](#): > > But some claim that it builds trust. The majority do… but claiming that it builds trust and it actually being the case are two very different things. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/59 "2024-10-23T11:03:09Z")
Imagine the shock of thinking you’re driving the bus only to discover you’re thrown under the bus. It was the best blindside I can remember in this show. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/60 "2024-10-24T16:31:26Z")
1. Excellent, excellent show. Showed the build up, and the payoff, and how the castaways dealt with lying to Rome. 2. Once again, LOVED the competitions. Done so very, very well, and it did not favor strength versus intelligence. I’m surprised that team won - but I blame Rome for screwing up the puzzle so much. 3. Sol? Voting for Andy? Not Rome? WTF, man! 4. LOVED the aftermath of the red paint. Couldn’t have played off more perfectly. 5. I’m starting to not like Sue. “I’m 45!” Yeah, right. Good episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415.md?page=4)