# Survivor 47 (and some bonus info!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** reality-or-game-show\
**Created:** [September 18, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415 "2024-09-18T01:21:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/81 "2024-11-03T02:11:45Z")

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> [@Noelq](#):
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> THANK YOU FOR SEARCHING A COMPETITION! Good gods, I can’t believe the players haven’t been searching the sit-out seats, the benches, everything! They should know better.

In one of the competitions, the sitting out player, she was clearly searching the bench.

> [@Noelq](#):
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> 1. I’m really sorry to see Tiana leave. I really liked her.

But she should have know it could have been her. She had to get Caroline to change up,

> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I’m glad Sol chose Rachel to give the advantage to.

Yep, great move, and great expressions on his face.

> [@Wheelz](#):
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> For all the talk about Tuku putting a target on their backs, you _know_ they were going to vote Rachel off anyway.

Yep, becuase sure they’d be 5, and the two other team 6- but 3 of each other tribe. Getting those six together would not be simple or easy.

> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Who in their right mind would have chosen the Block a Vote option over Safety Without Power?

Someone who pretty much thought they werent getting voted out, but who wanted to make sure a alliance member was safe. But not in this case, of course. Safety was the Only way.

> [@Jas09](#):
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> It never works. I really don’t know why…

For like one vote it has, but has it lasted more than two votes ever?

> [@Wheelz](#):
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> What I always wonder is whether they’re required to douse their fire before going to the challenge.

They arent, in fact just these season one team came back and found enough glowing embers to restart their fire.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/82 "2024-11-03T02:14:18Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> They arent, in fact just these season one team came back and found enough glowing embers to restart their fire.

And there was also one time this season where a tribe lamented that they _hadn’t_ stoked their fire this time even though they normally did. Which is idiotic - I can’t imagine ever leaving your camp without getting the fire raging if there was a chance you might lose your flint.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/83 "2024-11-03T11:28:54Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> What I always wonder is whether they’re required to douse their fire before going to the challenge. Otherwise, they should leave a giant roaring fire and hope there’s something left of it when they get back, in case they lose their flint.

I remember a season in which a tribe’s camp burned to the ground while they were at tribal.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/84 "2024-11-04T16:37:16Z")

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Probst only started to take the flint away in Season 41 when the tribe lost an immunity challenge, when they went to 26 day seasons. IMO, I don’t think he should do that.

If Sol had sent the advantage to Kyle (who had the immunity necklace), there would be no need to for him to use the “Safety w/o Power” option, so he could choose “block a vote” if he wanted to target a player from the group.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/85 "2024-11-04T20:57:51Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> IMO, I don’t think he should do that.
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> If Sol had sent the advantage to Kyle (who had the immunity necklace), there would be no need to for him to use the “Safety w/o Power” option, so he could choose “block a vote” if he wanted to target a player from the group.

I agree about the flint. I still wonder what they did with those raw eggs- of course those are perfectly edible raw.

If Sol had given it to Kyle, that would have just meant Rachel being voted off.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/86 "2024-11-04T21:19:53Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> If Sol had given it to Kyle, that would have just meant Rachel being voted off.

Kyle was wanted to vote out Gabe. If he blocks Gabe’s vote, then it’s 3 votes on Gabe and 2 on Rachel.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/87 "2024-11-04T21:43:05Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Kyle was wanted to vote out Gabe.

It was pretty clear they had decided on Rachel. The panic that set in after the Advantage was telling.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/88 "2024-11-05T00:18:53Z")

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> If Sol had given it to Kyle, that would have just meant Rachel being voted off.

Yes, I was trying to illustrate that the “Block a Vote” option was a viable option depending on who Sol gave it too.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/89 "2024-11-05T02:01:13Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Yes, I was trying to illustrate that the “Block a Vote” option was a viable option depending on who Sol gave it too.

True, but Sol, who is smart and strategic, wanted one of the five strong team voted off, and it worked. Also is sowed dissention there.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/90 "2024-11-05T15:28:48Z")

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They settled on Rachel because they didn’t have enough votes to get Gabe. I think if Kyle got the advantage they would’ve switched.

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**Author:** ![PetroDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/278dde/32.png) [@PetroDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetroDude)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/91 "2024-11-05T15:53:39Z")

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After Rachel took the safety, I would have liked to have seen the remaining people immediately vote without the chance to discuss it amongst themselves. I get that it is more dramatic for TV in that moment, but I think it would have had some fun to watch implications to see which players can think on their feet and which ones flounder in the moment.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/92 "2024-11-05T20:08:45Z")

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After one season, viewers complained about all the whispering, so they stopped it for a season, and now sometimes we can get captioning. I think the whispering needs to end. Mind you, your idea would work also.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/93 "2024-11-05T20:17:44Z")

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Yeah, immediately after Rachel walked away, I was expecting (hoping?) Jeff to say, “Okay, _now_ it’s time to vote!”

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/94 "2024-11-07T16:36:59Z")

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The latest episode was rather a come down, imho. Half an hour of a food auction and yet another “Do X for as long as possible” challenge. For all the attempts at ‘targeting’ various players, the tribe as a whole did the sensible thing and broke up the clearly committed twosome.

Best part of the show: the scene with Andy lamenting over how he never saw any bamboo tubes while the camera showed him walking past obviously visible ones in tree crotches, beside bushes, and even plat out in the open atop a stone. What the heck was he looking for?

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/95 "2024-11-07T17:33:43Z")

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I’ll disagree. I really enjoyed this episode. They really took the time to show how the vote was changed, altered, then changed again. It was some great tension on who would be voted out.

And again, I really liked the challenges. All done very well. And the auction was fun, too.

I could do, however, without another extreme close-up of Sue.

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**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/96 "2024-11-07T21:55:33Z")

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I dislike the rule of losing your vote if you have the most money at the end. Mostly everyone just bids all their money for each item, and each item goes to whoever has the most money. That doesn’t make for an interesting auction. It would be more interesting if the contestants had to weigh the possibility of bidding for food now over bidding for something better later. Now people just mostly want to dump all their money as quickly as possible regardless of what item is offered.

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/97 "2024-11-07T22:17:31Z")

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> [@sohvan](#):
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> I dislike the rule of losing your vote if you have the most money at the end. Mostly everyone just bids all their money for each item, and each item goes to whoever has the most money. That doesn’t make for an interesting auction. It would be more interesting if the contestants had to weigh the possibility of bidding for food now over bidding for something better later. Now people just mostly want to dump all their money as quickly as possible regardless of what item is offered

Well, previously, without that rule people were just holding onto their cash until they got to the end, just waiting for the advantages. That made it really boring.  
In this version, there was such unequal amount of cash because some of them sucked in finding the bamboo tubes. If everyone had close to the same amounts, there would have been more strategy.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/98 "2024-11-07T23:29:49Z")

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I like the new auction. I’m actually just glad the auction is back again the last few seasons. I enjoy it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/99 "2024-11-08T02:58:44Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Best part of the show: the scene with Andy lamenting over how he never saw any bamboo tubes while the camera showed him walking past obviously visible ones in tree crotches, beside bushes, and even plat out in the open atop a stone.

He almost touched that last one. As I am fond of saying (it comes from my parents, so blame them)- “If it was a snake, it would have bitten you!”

> [@Noelq](#):
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> I really enjoyed this episode.

I concur.

> [@Noelq](#):
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> Well, previously, without that rule people were just holding onto their cash until they got to the end, just waiting for the advantages. That made it really boring.

Right. Some even said “I dont care about any advantage, i am hungry!”.

Few bidders got goats, except the woman who got fish eyes.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I like the new auction. I’m actually just glad the auction is back again the last few seasons. I enjoy it.

Right!

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-47-and-some-bonus-info/1007415/100 "2024-11-16T23:05:49Z")

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Everyone: “Kyle keeps winning immunity! We need to get him out as soon as he loses!”

Kyle: _Loses immunity challenge_

Everyone: “Hey, let’s all vote for Sol!”

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