# Survivor 5/12/13 Last Push - Season Finale **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145 "2013-05-12T13:45:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/61 "2013-05-13T19:45:37Z")
Some info from Dawn about all things “Survivor”: [http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/13/su...meehan-brenda/](http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/13/su...meehan-brenda/) ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/62 "2013-05-13T19:52:31Z")
**singular** -Tell us how you _really_ feel about Rupert. 😃 Posted this in other thread b4 seeing this one: Yup, outta luck to get with Brenda! She looked wonderful though. How pregnant is too pregnant to fly? (I also wondered if she was preggers during the game) ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/63 "2013-05-13T20:08:00Z")
> [@YWalker](#): > > Missed the edit window: I don’t know why so many on the jury felt the need to trash Sherri to her face at the Tribal Council. Sure, don’t vote for her — I don’t think she deserved to win, either, but it just seemed like it was sour grapes to feel the need to put her down as well as not voting for her. “My question for you, Sherri, is YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME. How dare you get farther in it than I did?” I was glad they had both fans & favorites in the final four, so when they did the memory hike, there’d be something to say about the first half-dozen people voted off, other than “Which of the three blondes was she?” > [@muldoonthief](#): > > I know they had to scramble to get another challenge in after Eric’s evacuation um, what? There was supposed to be a challenge that day anyway… maybe they just took one of the stations out of the House of Cards challenge? I don’t remember whether there was a fifth one they didn’t use, or a big empty space… In the Ponderosa clip, they showed Reynold getting antibiotics for an infected leg wound after Andrea got voted off, so he had the leg wound when he arrived at Ponderosa, and still walked around on it for a couple days before he saw the docs about it. That’s kinda weird, although it may be by that point in the game that they’re all used to feeling miserable all the time and it took a couple days of rest and good food before he realized his leg still really hurt… ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/64 "2013-05-13T20:28:45Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > um, what? There was supposed to be a challenge that day anyway… maybe they just took one of the stations out of the House of Cards challenge? I don’t remember whether there was a fifth one they didn’t use, or a big empty space… That’s what I meant, though I worded it badly. The producers wanted to do both challenges they had set up to use up TV time, so they had to convert one to a Reward challenge. But the reward they gave out sucked from a game point of view. There were only 4 stations. I wonder if they would have set up the puzzle station differently if you were left handed? I’d have done the challenge with my back to the camera if I had to, so I’d get to use my left hand for the house assembly. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/65 "2013-05-13T21:00:35Z")
I wanted to see one of the Cochran confessionals where he was calling Phillip a deluded idiot played at the reunion. The whole Stealth R Us stuff got laughed at all during the game - the alliance worked for a while, the pretense was :smack: - but that hardly rated a mention. Except to pimp BR’s book. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/66 "2013-05-13T21:26:39Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I wanted to see one of the Cochran confessionals where he was calling Phillip a deluded idiot played at the reunion. The whole Stealth R Us stuff got laughed at all during the game - the alliance worked for a while, the pretense was :smack: - but that hardly rated a mention. Except to pimp BR’s book. Well, the final 3 were all members of Stealth R Us, so that’s gotta count for something… Also, I remember Phillip promising Sherri that if she went with SRU, she’d be the last fan standing, and that turned out pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/67 "2013-05-13T21:31:19Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > I strikes me that Dawn just doesn’t get it – or is in denial. The latter perhaps the cause of her weight gain? If you’re going to lean on certain people for your emotional well being throughout the season and then (apparently, depending on editing) have absolutely no regard for cutting that same person’s throat, well, you’re either a fraud, a prick (use female equivalent) or a psychopath. And clearly that was a bad choice, because nobody voted for her – I think just as much for this reason as tiring of her in-camp antics. And she absolutely didn’t acknowledge that it was a bad – and shitty – move. I think Brenda was being nice in accepting her apology and painted into a corner because it was a reunion show on national TV, but I would be surprised if she sends Dawn a Christmas card this year. Yeah, Michael tried to make the point that Dawn was taking heat while Cochran got off scot-free, but they were NOT in the same boat. Dawn was constantly having emotional breakdowns and constantly needed other people to prop her up. She made emotional connections. Cochran was in alliances with people but never made those emotional bonds. I don’t think Dawn quite remembers exactly what she said to Brenda when Brenda got her retainer back for her, but Brenda obviously took it to mean they wouldn’t turn on each other because they were so close. Cochran never made that promise. I think players understand that breaking alliances is part of the game (especially the returning veteran players), but not when you’ve made such an emotional connection. That’s why Andrea wasn’t bitter but Brenda was. > [@](#): > > Lastly, I, like most, was perfectly happy that Cochrane won, but he never found (put?) himself in position to butt heads with strong personalities this season. I think Cochrane still gets swallowed by a Coach or a Russell Hantz-type competitor, but really, they just weren’t on the show this season. To his credit, he played the season very smoothly, letting the game come to him this time around and was absolutely stellar in the Final TC. I think it’s always hard to analyze because every season is different. I think he played perfectly for the hand he was dealt - Phillip makes a great figurehead to sacrifice as the leader, and when you’ve got veteran beta-style players, it’s easy to band together and keep taking out the threats when they arise (Corrine, Malcolm, Brenda, etc.) Very very different dynamic from a season where someone like Boston Rob or Coach is the only returning player and gets everyone to follow them in almost a cult-like fashion because the newbies can’t think for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/68 "2013-05-13T21:40:24Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > Very very different dynamic from a season where someone like Boston Rob or Coach is the only returning player and gets everyone to follow them in almost a cult-like fashion because the newbies can’t think for themselves. Which, ironically enough, seems to be exactly what Phillip was trying to do. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/69 "2013-05-13T22:46:07Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > He was kicked off Big Brother for physically attacking another houseguest. (Not voted out; abruptly removed from the game by producers.) who would have thought Russell is the sane one of the bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/70 "2013-05-13T22:50:13Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Well, the final 3 were all members of Stealth R Us, so that’s gotta count for something… Also, I remember Phillip promising Sherri that if she went with SRU, she’d be the last fan standing, and that turned out pretty well. That’s what I was trying to get at - the alliance worked, but the looney tune names Phillip handed out made it bizzaro world. Could Phillip have had the same success without looking like a delusional idiot, or was his act an integral part of the alliance’s success? ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/71 "2013-05-14T00:30:40Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Actually, his BP was 100/80, which according to my RN wife is completely normal. Not massively different, but it was actually 100/70. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/72 "2013-05-14T01:03:36Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Actually, his BP was 100/80, which according to my RN wife is completely normal. > [@amarone](#): > > Not massively different, but it was actually 100/70. I thought I saw that… they said 100/80, then Eddie did a little explaining about what that meant, then they did a close-up of the thingy and it said 100/70, and I thought… “rut-roh…” and they don’t want to just say out loud, “Hey, your BP’s dropping. How weird is that?” They just said “Time to go.” ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/73 "2013-05-14T01:06:44Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I thought I saw that… they said 100/80, then Eddie did a little explaining about what that meant, then they did a close-up of the thingy and it said 100/70, and I thought… “rut-roh…” and they don’t want to just say out loud, “Hey, your BP’s dropping. How weird is that?” They just said “Time to go.” They said 100/70 - two different people. I checked the video online before posting. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/74 "2013-05-14T05:40:42Z")
Okay, I just watched it again. Two different people said 100/70, and then they did a close up on the thingy and it said 100/50. How’s 100/50 for a BP, with a very slow pulse? ---
**Author:** ![Pither](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@Pither](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pither)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/75 "2013-05-14T13:04:31Z")
Prediction regarding the Blood vs. Water premise: Blood is in fact going to prove to be thicker than water! Initially this sounds like an interesting way to mix up the formula. unfortunately the way it’ll play out will be whichever families are intact come merge are going to team up together (I’m predicting two intact come merge) and gut the rest of the tribe. it’ll get interesting towards the end, but time will tell if it spices up the first half of the show… I still Think they should go with an all homeless cast. Lots of great personalities to choose from! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/76 "2013-05-14T14:27:25Z")
> [@Pither](#): > > I still Think they should go with an all homeless cast. Lots of great personalities to choose from! Would that include rickshaw races moderated by Kramer? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/77 "2013-05-14T15:51:51Z")
Still like Survivor: Jerry Springer: With a Trannie, Gay for Pay, Stripper, Morbidly Obese, Teen Mom, Heroin Addict, Anorexic, Sex addict, alcoholic, Wife Beater, Conjoined Twins etc. And any other dysfunctional personality type featured on Jerry Springer ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/78 "2013-05-14T16:15:27Z")
Apparently the little girl that Probst interviewed at the reunion is the same one in this [youtube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGnWiod6QM) video. Who was the dumbazz who thought interviewing this girl was a good idea? Who films their kid in full break-down and puts on you tube. I could not watch the entire thing and it is only 70 seconds long. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/79 "2013-05-14T16:22:18Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Apparently the little girl that Probst interviewed at the reunion is the same one in this [youtube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGnWiod6QM) video. > > Who was the dumbazz who thought interviewing this girl was a good idea? > > Who films their kid in full break-down and puts on you tube. > > I could not watch the entire thing and it is only 70 seconds long. 7 seconds for me and I quit. She is going to get teased for this big time. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145/80 "2013-05-14T16:42:05Z")
Erik gave an interview where he talks about what really happened with him getting pulled and how crappy the reunion was: [http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/13/survivor-caramoan-erik-reunion/?hpt=hp\_t3](http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/13/survivor-caramoan-erik-reunion/?hpt=hp_t3) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-5-12-13-last-push-season-finale/658145.md?page=5)