# Survivor 50 - All Stars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [February 23, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920 "2026-02-23T23:36:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/161 "2026-05-01T02:19:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Incidentally I had no freaken idea who this “mrbeast” is or was. I mean there are 1000s of better known celebrities. The way I explained it to my mother-in-law, who’d also never heard of him, is like her parents asking her, “who is this Paul McCartney guy, anyway?” I certainly don’t expect everyone to know who any particular celebrity is, but Mr. Beast is absolutely huge, and not knowing him really only means you’re not in his target demographic. We’ve had plenty of threads about people not knowing celebrities with much more in depth discussion of how someone with 500 million followers can be completely unknown to us. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/162 "2026-05-01T02:50:18Z")
I had to explain to my wife who he is which really surprised me since she’s on her phone most of the day. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/163 "2026-05-01T03:09:45Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > someone with 500 million followers Just to clarify, this isn’t a figure of speech like a ‘gazillion.’ Right now google says Mr Beast has 479 million youtube subscribers. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/164 "2026-05-01T03:16:37Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > The way I explained it to my mother-in-law, who’d also never heard of him, is like her parents asking her, “who is this Paul McCartney guy, anyway?” Yeah but the Beatles were on Television (Ed Sullivan!) and the news- constantly. You had to be living in a cave to not know who they were. I do watch Youtube, but never run across him. He apparently does stunts and extreme challenges- which are not my cup of tea. I tend to listen/watch music and educational stuff. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/165 "2026-05-01T03:29:04Z")
He technically has a tv show, “Beast Games,” on Amazon Prime. Not broadcast television, of course, but still. Like you, I’m a youtube watcher who has never seen any of his videos, but oddly stunts and extreme challenges _are_ my cup of tea. You’d think I would have. I chalk it up to there being a whole giant world online that I’m blissfully unaware of. For example, I’ve heard the name PewDiePie as being a popular youtuber but never seen any of his content. Turns out he was the most viewed youtuber in history until Mr Beast surpassed him. Heard both names, yet I’m completely unfamiliar with either of their stuff. Get off my lawn! heh. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/166 "2026-05-01T03:34:00Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Like you, I’m a youtube watcher who has never seen any of his videos, There are 115 million channels on YT to subscribe to. It would be super easy to miss any one of them. I have ExtinctZoo, Viva la Dirt League, xkcds’s What If, Antiques Roadshow, the DM lair , etc. I really suggest _xkcds’s What If._ ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/167 "2026-05-01T04:16:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yeah but the Beatles were on Television (Ed Sullivan!) and the news- constantly. You had to be living in a cave to not know who they were Pretty much the same thing can be said for Mr. Beast. I’m not trying to throw it out as some kind of value judgement you don’t know who he is. He’s on all the tubes and toks and instas and Xs, and I think I’ve watched only one video of his, because he drove a train into a hole, but then I saw maybe it was all CGI, and I didn’t care to research it to find out. To put it into some perspective, the Super Bowl this year had something like 125 million viewers. One of Mr. Beast’s videos he released 12 days ago has 111 million views so far. Sure, lots of issues comparing TV viewership ratings to YouTube views, but those are Taylor Swift numbers. To keep it on topic, when Mr. Beast and Jeff Probst are on stage together, one of them is a much bigger celebrity, and he’s also taller and younger. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/168 "2026-05-01T13:42:28Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > The way I explained it to my mother-in-law, who’d also never heard of him, is like her parents asking her, “who is this Paul McCartney guy, anyway?” I’m 47 and can confirm, Jimmy Donaldson(Mr. Beast) is probably in the top 200 most famous people in America right now. If we talk about under-30s, he is probably in the top 50…I guess if we exclude sports stars. He’s super famous and I don’t watch or subscribe to his channel. I should say, though, that I watched Beast Games. It was fun. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/169 "2026-05-01T19:01:18Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > If we talk about under-30s, he is probably in the top 50…I guess if we exclude sports stars. I think it’s probably higher than that if you go younger. It’s pretty hard to quantify something like that, but if you polled a random middle or high school I would imagine that Mr Beast and Taylor Swift are probably the two closest to 100% name recognition. At least with athletes there will be someone that doesn’t know LeBron or Ronaldo or Messi. I would say with the under-20 crowd Mr Beast is top-5 in name recognition. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/170 "2026-05-03T17:27:31Z")
I was traveling for three weeks, and _just_ finished catching up on Survivor. So much good stuff in the last few episodes! I still can’t believe anyone bought Devens’ fake tribal council idol gambit. He sold it brilliantly, and it kept him around for at least two votes. And a good move eventually owning up to the ruse, IMO. Glad we’re done with Coach’s bullshit. He was entertaining up to a point, but the shtick got old fast. Chrissy was collateral damage, but I didn’t care about her one way or the other. The way Christian went out was brutal, but also damned entertaining. I’d definitely heard of Mr. Beast, and knew what his claim to fame was, but I’d never actually seen him before. I was surprised that he seemed like a humble, soft-spoken sort of guy; I expected some brash loudmouth. I may check out some of his videos now. I could definitely imagine the whole coin-flip thing going badly: nobody wanting to do it, drawing rocks, getting the call wrong, and someone is ousted without a vote and half the tribe is angry about it. But Devens’ gleeful abandon, along with outcome of the toss, transformed it into a moment of joy for the whole tribe. I loved watching that! ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/171 "2026-05-03T17:43:37Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I could definitely imagine the whole coin-flip thing going badly: nobody wanting to do it, drawing rocks, getting the call wrong, and someone is ousted without a vote And yet Jeff would still say “The tribe has spoken.”🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/172 "2026-05-03T18:10:14Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > But Devens’ gleeful abandon, along with outcome of the toss, transformed it into a moment of joy for the whole tribe. I loved watching that! I think that episode is one of the most memorable overall in a few years. The production so wanted the coin to land on “double it” because of how great that makes the drama. My wife and I pointed out right away, though. The previous All-Star season set the amount to $2 million right away. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/173 "2026-05-03T18:13:01Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I’d definitely heard of Mr. Beast, and knew what his claim to fame was, but I’d never actually seen him before. I was surprised that he seemed like a humble, soft-spoken sort of guy; I expected some brash loudmouth. I may check out some of his videos now. He has suffered a lot of blowback online lately. People tearing him down, saying he seems fake. I don’t believe anything is based on any real problems or true rumors. It’s a natural blowback that happens when someone reaches huge popularity. We like him. Wife is 45. I’m 47. His videos are fun. We haven’t watched in awhile, but he seems like a good guy to us. He includes his high-school friends in the fun(and money) and that’s cool. Only thing I remember was one of his friends came out as a transgender girl. Recently, she has not been in videos, I heard? I don’t remember any new of him firing her, though. He seemed supportive right when she transitioned from male-\>female. I find someone like Jimmy Donaldson(Mr. Beast) and Doug Walker(Nostalgia Critic) are more enjoyable when you tune out any noise or blowback around them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/174 "2026-05-03T19:26:53Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > The way Christian went out was brutal, but also damned entertaining. I liked Christian to start, but then he started a couple campaigns to vote out popular players, and he gave no solid reasoning. But move, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/175 "2026-05-05T14:04:01Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I could definitely imagine the whole coin-flip thing going badly: nobody wanting to do it, drawing rocks, getting the call wrong, and someone is ousted without a vote and half the tribe is angry about it. Yeah, I think the producers got _extremely_ lucky with how this played out. As you point out, having nobody want to do it and going to rocks would have been awful if whoever drew the odd rock missed the call. But they did at least sweeten the pot quite a bit by offering both immunity at this tribal _and_ an idol. So basically it’s a coin flip to make Final 8. For a player on the outs that’s a pretty big deal, especially compared to the Shot in the Dark (one-in-six chance with no idol attached). Certainly this twist was much more balanced than the Jimmy Fallon one where the reward was not remotely close to worth the risk. Not really too sad to see Stephanie go - she just isn’t a good enough liar to play this game. Even when she’s telling the truth she seems like she’s lying. Pretty interesting situation with the tribe now. I’m trying to figure out how these Final 9 break down. I think we have a few groups that are playing together, but it all feels a bit fluid. Jonathan and Joe seem aligned. As do Ozzy, Rizo, and Cirie. I guess Emily, Rick, and Aubry might be working together? Is Tiff with Cirie’s group, or with Aubry? Everybody voted for Steph, so that doesn’t help, and if we go back a week it looks like everybody (except Emily) was voting together as well (with Rick and Christian the split-vote targets). Lots of very big targets left too - Ozzy, Cirie, Joe, Jonathan, Rick (perhaps). Feels like all of those go in the “possible winner” bucket and will be targeted by the others. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/176 "2026-05-05T17:09:45Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > So basically it’s a coin flip to make Final 8… > [@Jas09](#): > > …how these Final 9… This annoys me, and it is not you, it’s Jeff. Look, it is the Final 4 and maybe final 5. Not final 8, or 7 or 6. Next thing you know it will be the final 23 after one player leaves. > [@Jas09](#): > > Everybody voted for Steph, so that doesn’t help, and if we go back a week it looks like everybody (except Emily) was voting together as well (with Rick and Christian the split-vote targets). Yeah, not much real drama anymore with the votes, they have been pretty unanimous. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/177 "2026-05-05T17:16:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Look, it is the Final 4 and maybe final 5. Lol. I get it, but I’m not sure how else to refer to it. Can we come up with other names like the NCAA does? Elite 8. Notorious 9? Terrific 10? Select 7 and Serious 6? > [@DrDeth](#): > > Yeah, not much real drama anymore with the votes, they have been pretty unanimous. I actually think that may be a sign of some pretty advanced game play. No reason to rock the boat as long as it isn’t you or your close ally. Jonathon was perfectly fine cutting Stephenie once that became the plan. Try not to give away who your strongest partners are, or who you aren’t willing to work with. Jonathan did have a bit of a tell when he flat out told Emily she was “full of it” during Tribal. But I don’t think Emily is dumb enough to think Jonathan was her ally. I also think Cirie is being a bit too obvious the extent to which she is protecting Ozzy - that could backfire on her. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/178 "2026-05-05T17:18:28Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > I get it, but I’m not sure how else to refer to it. Can we come up with other names like the NCAA does? Elite 8. Notorious 9? Terrific 10? Select 7 and Serious 6? Would you name the group after only one person voted out? How about- “with nine players left…:” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/179 "2026-05-05T17:26:11Z")
But the point is that Devin’s is guaranteed to make to the final 8. Is saying “Devin’s is guaranteed to make it until there are only 8 players left” somehow better? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-50-all-stars/1027920/180 "2026-05-06T18:02:26Z")
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