# Survivor 7 October 04 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 7, 2004, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013 "2004-10-07T13:14:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/41 "2004-10-08T13:19:15Z")
Easy enough, though. All you have to do is shift each column down by one sqaure relative to the previous column. Oh, yeah… and get your teammates to listen to you. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/42 "2004-10-08T13:42:25Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > I just opened Word and made a 4x4 table try to solve the puzzle myself. It was easy. I’m a quilter. I did it in my head in about three minutes flat. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/43 "2004-10-08T14:00:49Z")
> [@The Big Cheese](#): > > is it just me, or does this look to be the most boring Survivor ever. > or is it that they just have the dumbest ‘contestants’ ever. Not the dumbest…that would be Thailand. But it is the most boring and they are all, indeed, pretty dumb. I’m basically watching out of routine now…I have no interest whatsoever in who wins. Hell, I THOUGHT I would be rooting for Lea in a Rudyesque sort of way, but he’s just devoid of personality, particularly for a Marine DI. I also thought I would be sad when Brady was voted off, since he seems like an intelligent guy, who’s also an FBI agent…but he and hell, almost ALL the guys have been given zero character development. Either Burnett screwed up big time or these people are just incredibly lifeless cardboard cutouts. ---
**Author:** ![Sweetums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Sweetums](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweetums)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/44 "2004-10-08T14:05:30Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > So, now, with Brady gone, we have the guys down to 5, and the ladies at 8 and kicking butt in the challenges. I’m rooting for the girls to wipe the floor with the fellas to make up for the Amazon Humilation (aka “they burned down the camp!?!?”) > > And what happens? Skip to previews-from-next-week: “everyone, take off your buffs!” > > Dammit. They’re going to mix-master the tribes and do the “take a buff from the magic helmet” trick, so we’ll have mixed teams again. Way to let the air out of the sails. :smack: > > Not a horrible episode, but not that interesting. But I’m afraid next weeks mix-mastering is too early – I feel I just got to barely know the tribes and we’re doing 52 pickup. ``` Yep, I was really looking foreward to watching the guys pay for their boneheaded stratagy "vote off all the strong people so not only do you continue to loose challlenges, but when merge comes around, there a fewer of your origional team than there are of the the other team" Yep brilliant thinking there :rolleyes: But no! Instead of letting these dimwits feel the consequences, the producers pull a "deus-ex-buttsaver" and let them get off. Shouldn't they have let it go a few more rounds, and give us the pleasure of watching these boziods squirm? ``` ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/45 "2004-10-08T14:19:46Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Oh, that would be _sweeeeeeeeeet_. Except we’d have to vote out Probst and the camerapeople, because we Dopers have to stick together! It would be the first season in the history of the show where everyone conspires to split the money evenly 16 ways (even if it _is_ against “the rules” – screw you, Burnett, rules were made to be broken!). Doper Island… We’d have fire in no time (because we’re smart enough to \*practice \* before signing up for the show) then water purification, rum and riki-tiki-condos. The crew would be lured in with rum drinks and hot rock massages, bash them on the head and then we’d vote them out. “No really, Jeff. Izzy was here last week. Honest. He was sitting on the back row,” she said, trying to look innocent. \<\\> It’d be beautiful, man! But can we please keep Probst? As a pet? I bet he looks good on a leash… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/46 "2004-10-08T14:28:59Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I would normally agree with you, except that I don’t like that this is _working against the female viewers_. Hey, IMO, Twila, Leann, Ami and Scout can pick off all the Bowheads they want … but for the love of Og, the only eye-candy left for us women is skinny gay John the mechanical bull operator? I mean, come _on_! It’s like having to go into the rest of the season with a merged tribe made up of Rob C., five Heidis, and a buttload of Clays. _Ick._ Change that to “some female viewers,” okay? I’m an ordinary hot-blooded 33-year-old hetero female, and I don’t give a hoot about “eye candy” or cute guys or what have you. I watch this stuff because it’s like crack to the armchair anthropologist in me. I’d rather see boring Brady gone than any of the fat five. Whatta bunch of characters. And speaking of which, as much as I heartily dislike Rory, he has a [Tilley hat](http://www.tilley.com/), so I have to root for him a little bit. 🙂 It was really interesting to observe the post-Mia Yasur. It is a little hard to separate the effect of Mia’s leaving from the effect of Da’s visit, but it really does seem as if she was a major factor in the discord. And I still contend that Lisa’s decision to switch her vote had as much to do with her recognition of that as with any strategy. Like I said last week, she may have aligned herself with the youngins, but she is 44, and with that _usually_ comes some wisdom. Now that I think of it, her decision to go with the youngins may have been primarily strategic in the first place. In the previous “young vs. old” situations, the young have prevailed…she may be smarter than her horrible boob job makes her look. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/47 "2004-10-08T15:02:48Z")
I proudly announce that I immediately thought of the diagonal strategy – line up all the same color on a diagonal as your first move. Line up all the same icon on the opposite diagonal (avoiding conflicts with the first diagonal) as the second move. So I’m at least as smart as Eliza. :rolleyes: The guys are just…pathetic. I’d be really disappointed if a shuffle bails them out; I’d like to see them thrash around pathetically for another week or two. Da rocked! ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/48 "2004-10-08T15:41:15Z")
> [@DeVena](#): > > Doper Island… We’d have fire in no time (because we’re smart enough to _practice_ before signing up for the show) then water purification, rum and riki-tiki-condos. The crew would be lured in with rum drinks and hot rock massages, bash them on the head and then we’d vote them out. “No really, Jeff. Izzy was here last week. Honest. He was sitting on the back row,” she said, trying to look innocent. \<\\> It’d be beautiful, man! > > But can we please keep Probst? As a pet? I bet he looks good on a leash… 😃 OK, we can keep Probst. But he’s not allowed to wear a shirt. And he’ll stay in _our_ condo, OK? 😉 > [@Green Bean](#): > > Change that to “some female viewers,” okay? I’m an ordinary hot-blooded 33-year-old hetero female, and I don’t give a hoot about “eye candy” or cute guys or what have you. I watch this stuff because it’s like crack to the armchair anthropologist in me. I’d rather see boring Brady gone than any of the fat five. Whatta bunch of characters. You know, you’re right, although I do sort of disagree. My problem is, I think _everyone in this entire cast_ is boring (or at least they’re edited to look that way) and I found that with J.P. and Brady, at least they had _something_ going for them. Not much, but _something_. I suspect that J.P. and Brady could have been interesting, if they had been kept around longer. I also think that Chad might be _very_ interesting, but all I know about him is “he had cancer and now has an artificial leg.” Not enough to hook me, I’m afraid, but then again, I do admit to not being impressed easily (most of the time). Burnett, do you read these boards? _ **WTF?** _ Where are the _good_ players? I mean, I think Boston Rob was a total jackass, but at least he was interesting. Even Rupert, as sick of him as most people are now, even Rupert usually did something worth putting on TV, even it if was building that god-awful underground log cabin. This group? Nothing. So, show more of Da! ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/49 "2004-10-08T18:27:25Z")
That’s a good point, **rockle**. I should remember that since this is only my second time watching Survivor, I perceive things quite differently than those people who what watched it many times before. What is interesting to me may be really boring and played out to you. And I’m sorry if I seemed a little snippy. I read another message board about reality TV shows, and while most of the discussion there is excellent, the straight females there do tend to go on and on (and on and on) about male eye candy. When their favorites get voted off, they often say that they won’t bother to watch any more. And for some reason, the females also seem to be slightly obsessed with male-on-male sexuality. I’m just a little tired of wading through all that to get to the analysis of the other parts of the shows. So when you said the magic words (eye candy), I snapped. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/50 "2004-10-08T18:39:06Z")
Not a problem, **Green Bean**. I personally will continue to watch, if only so I can “neener-neener” at the players when their stupid decisions bite them in their collective ass. Oh, and let me say … I hope that the guys get Pagonged. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/51 "2004-10-08T19:39:52Z")
I got ‘distracted’ by the time they had the puzzle thing going. What I could see out of the corner of my eye didn’t make much sense. Can someone describe what the actual game was? ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/52 "2004-10-08T19:46:56Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I got ‘distracted’ by the time they had the puzzle thing going. What I could see out of the corner of my eye didn’t make much sense. Can someone describe what the actual game was? Sure. There were 16 tiles. Each tile was one of four colors, and one of four logos. The teams had to arrange the tiles in such a way where no icon and no color was duplicated in each row – up and down, and left and right. Lots of people in this thread seemed to cotton on to the right pattern immediately. I am not one of those people, _ahem_. But I’d like to think I could have at least commanded enough authority to shut everybody up for once. Too many chiefs in the Lopevi kitchen on that challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/53 "2004-10-08T20:06:15Z")
Whose the idiot that said “hola” to Da when he arrived? He doesn’t speak english, so he _must_ speak spanish. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/54 "2004-10-08T20:42:10Z")
> [@hillbilly queen](#): > > Whose the idiot that said “hola” to Da when he arrived? > > He doesn’t speak english, so he _must_ speak spanish. :rolleyes: My god…it’s Mirna from Amazing Race! ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/55 "2004-10-08T22:53:14Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > Actually, weren’t they both at 7 each, so now they’re only off by one? The guys have 6 and the girls have 7? Yes, you’re right. I’d miscounted. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/56 "2004-10-10T04:15:22Z")
[Comic Book Guy voice]Worst…Survivor…ever![/Comic Book Guy voice] I’m watching only out of habit and because I’m still hopeful that the merge will cause some personalities to emerge and make the show fun again, but this has really sucked some major ass so far. I really despise the men vs women gimmick on Survivor the inter-gender relationships have usually been the most fun to watch (Rupert/Christa/Sandra, Rodger/Elisabeth, Paschal/Neleh, etc). I hope Burnett never pulls this crap again. I still don’t really like anyone on the show yet, but I really dislike Eliza. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/57 "2004-10-10T22:09:23Z")
Here’s hoping Eliza gets sucked into the great abyss during the earthquake … ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/58 "2004-10-11T00:11:51Z")
You know the season is too boring when you start cheering on natural disasters. Do I care if anyone is hurt? Nope. I just want to see a really cool earthquake. And lava. LOTS of lava. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013/59 "2004-10-11T11:34:33Z")
> [@DeVena](#): > > I just want to see a really cool earthquake. And lava. LOTS of lava. 😃 And screaming, as all of the Useless Ones are sucked under into the rivers of lava, and the flesh is burned from their bones, and … oh, wait, I’m getting a little _too_ into that, aren’t I? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-7-october-04/268013.md?page=2)