# Survivor Anti-All-Stars: Pick 'em **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037 "2007-05-14T14:34:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/1 "2007-05-14T14:34:35Z")
I missed the first two seasons, so y’all will have to help with those. Here are my nominees for a show CBS needs to do: A Survivor Bottom-of-the-pile Run-Off for Worst (Sorriest) Player Ever. I tried to avoid people kicked off in the first few weeks and those that lasted to the Jury Selection process, and tried to hold it to two per season. Some seasons it was hard to pick two baddies. Thus, I have: Africa: Silas and Brandon Marquesas: Rob and Sean Thailand: Robb and Clay Amazon: Heidi and Rob Pearl Islands: Jon and Osten Vanuatu: Ami and Scout Palau: Ibrehem and Janu Guatemala: Brian and Judd Panama Exile Island: Shane and Courtney Cook Islands: Brad and Jonathan Fiji: Rocky and Dreamz That’s 22 from 11 seasons and can expand to at least 26 from 13 seasons. I think we should avoid the All-Stars season. For Asshole #1, I had Jon Fairplay until last night, and I now have Dreamz as the hands-down prick of all time. My next few are: Rocky Shane Boston Rob Robb from Thailand These have to be in the group, but I’m felxible on the others. Make additions, votes and comments as you see fit. If this thread has any reasonable success, maybe we could forward the suggestion to CBS. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/2 "2007-05-14T18:16:47Z")
If you need help remembering these folks, try: [Africa](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor3/polls/rating_trends.shtml) [Marquesas](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor4/polls/rating_trends.shtml) [Thailand](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor5/polls/rating_trends.shtml) [Amazon](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor6/polls/ratingtrends.shtml) [Pearl Islands](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/polls/ratingtrends.shtml) [Vanuatu](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/polls/popularity_results.shtml) [Palau](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/vote/pop_results.shtml) [Guatemala](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/vote/results.shtml) [Panama Exile Island](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor12/vote/results.shtml) [Cook Islands](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/community/popularity/results.shtml) [Fiji](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor14/community/popularity/results.shtml) Surely you have some feelings for the Worst Survivor Player Of All Time? ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/3 "2007-05-14T18:27:17Z")
Sonja Christopher, aka “that lady with the banjo who fell down and was the first person ever voted off of _Survivor_.” If only to give her a second chance. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/4 "2007-05-14T18:30:10Z")
[QUOTE=Zeldar] Surely you have some feelings for the Worst Survivor Player Of All Time? [/QUOTE] Well, it depends on what you’re trying to do. Are we trying to come up with the worst players all time, meaning the players who were least skilled at the game, or the Worst players all time, meaning the players who were the biggest assholes? I can’t see a way for Boston Rob, Jonathan, Rob Cesternino, or even Pearl Islands John to make the first list - all four were, in their own ways, quite good at the game. If we’re looking to make a list of jerks, though, Rob C. doesn’t really fit, nor do any number of other players on your list. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/5 "2007-05-14T19:08:39Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] Well, it depends on what you’re trying to do. Are we trying to come up with the worst players all time, meaning the players who were least skilled at the game, or the Worst players all time, meaning the players who were the biggest assholes? I can’t see a way for Boston Rob, Jonathan, Rob Cesternino, or even Pearl Islands John to make the first list - all four were, in their own ways, quite good at the game. If we’re looking to make a list of jerks, though, Rob C. doesn’t really fit, nor do any number of other players on your list. [/QUOTE] Let me put it like this. Every season there’s going to be at least one, and usually more than one, player who will start getting on my nerves right away. As often as not, that player (those players) will have enough of what it takes to avoid getting voted off and to have me wanting them gone for weeks. If you want to label such players jerks or assholes, I’m okay with that. What this thread’s intent is is to use the same criteria as the All-Stars show and select past players to populate a season with the most offensive players possible. That way you get to pull for the least offensive one to win the money. However, any ideas on constructing an Anti-All-Stars show are worth exploring. It’s mostly for giggles, if that matters. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/6 "2007-05-14T19:50:01Z")
Fiji: Lisi and Sylvia. Sylvia had no people skills and she absolutely sucked at the challenges. As annoying as Rocky and Dreamz were, I wouldn’t put them in the “stupid player” category. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/7 "2007-05-14T20:08:23Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Fiji: Lisi and Sylvia. Sylvia had no people skills and she absolutely sucked at the challenges. As annoying as Rocky and Dreamz were, I wouldn’t put them in the “stupid player” category. [/QUOTE] I’m still thinking about this, but I’m pretty sure Lisi wins hands down for being the absolute worst player in the history of _Survivor._ I mean, oblivious, mean, the opposite of diplomatic, embarassingly bad in the challenges, incapable of strategic thought or even being decisive. Who’s been worse? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/8 "2007-05-14T20:19:20Z")
Here’s another tack to take in this concept: pick the ones who have coasted and ridden the coattails of the stronger and more skilled players. We had at least two winners whose “skill” was in aligning themselves with the strong players and jumping off their backs at the last moment. But if some of these people were required to provide food, water, fire, shelter, etc., for themselves, odds are the Survivor crew would either have to step in and provide first aid or else escort them away from the setting. An entire season’s worth of these drones would be hilarious to watch. That might make for another season of Losers. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-anti-all-stars-pick-em/404037/9 "2007-05-15T02:54:05Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] I’m still thinking about this, but I’m pretty sure Lisi wins hands down for being the absolute worst player in the history of _Survivor._ I mean, oblivious, mean, the opposite of diplomatic, embarassingly bad in the challenges, incapable of strategic thought or even being decisive. Who’s been worse? [/QUOTE] What is worse, Lisi was convinced that she was one of the better and smarter players in Fiji. Talk about self-delusion!