# Survivor April 15 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280 "2010-04-16T00:38:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/1 "2010-04-16T00:38:35Z")
Oh, Rusell is just fun to watch. I can’t blame the Heroes, it does look like the girls are in charge over at the villain tribe. I can’t believe they slipped him their idol. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/2 "2010-04-16T00:39:47Z")
Shoot. Can a mod move this to Cafe Society? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/3 "2010-04-16T00:48:12Z")
Reported with your request. Also: I basically hate _everyone_ at this point. Even Colby, whom I love under normal circumstances. Is it bad form to root for Cthulhu to rise up from the sea and devour them all? Saving Probst for last, of course, and eating him slowly, starting with the eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/4 "2010-04-16T00:49:52Z")
Moved Game Room \> CS. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/5 "2010-04-16T01:02:08Z")
I wonder how long Russell would have lasted in this game if the other survivors had seen his season? when this season started, I thought the other 19 castaways would have been briefed with the executive summary of Survivor: Samoa. It is becoming crystal clear that these people had no clue on what happened in Samoa. I wonder what would have happened if Shambo (instead of Candice) had been on the heroes tribe. Or Laura (instead of Danielle) was one of the villains. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/6 "2010-04-16T01:09:44Z")
I really didn’t think they would’ve give the idol away. I was sure with all that build up that something would go wrong and either the Heroes would lose or they wouldn’t be able to get the idol to him. I wonder how this will all play out. We all know that just because someone has the idol doesn’t mean they’re safe, especially if the Heroes figure out they screwed up and pull over Sandra. But with two idols, Russell’s group has a much bigger advantage. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/7 "2010-04-16T01:31:38Z")
I would say that this catapults J.T. rather far ahead of James “I’ve Got Two Idols In My Backpack Buh-bye”. ---
**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salem)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/8 "2010-04-16T01:48:30Z")
And when the Heroes see that neither Russell or Pavarti aren’t gone…hmmmm. Russell will probably concoct some story about how he had to use the idol but couldn’t get her out. Dumb move on JT’s part, but I’ll give him a slight pass on not knowing Russell’s game from the previous season. It was a calculated risk and not a bad theory. But of course, it was a dumb move without any definite knowledge and just an assumption. Not sure if commenting on the previews is “spoiler material” so just in case… It does look like post merge, the story will begin to unravel with Sandra ratting out Russell to Rupert. The villains should have gotten rid of her. She’s more conniving than Courtney, although Courtney may have done the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/9 "2010-04-16T01:52:55Z")
It was a dumb move but I don’t think it trumps James gaffe. JT had a plan, (albeit a bad plan) and it looks like Colby and Rupert were on-board with it. It is easy to Monday morning quarterback when you have the defensive alignment in front of you. JT had a plan to advance his tribe further in the game. Didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/10 "2010-04-16T02:11:30Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > It was a dumb move but I don’t think it trumps James gaffe. JT had a plan, (albeit a bad plan) and it looks like Colby and Rupert were on-board with it. > > It is easy to Monday morning quarterback when you have the defensive alignment in front of you. JT had a plan to advance his tribe further in the game. Didn’t work. It’s actually a good plan if you realize his whole perception of Russel comes from this one game, which has been on the other side of the entire time. He has zero idea who he is and their assumption about a “girl alliance” is actually pretty reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/11 "2010-04-16T02:16:28Z")
Speaking of armchair quarterbacking: I kind of like Colby’s chances now. I think. And also, I wonder how different this game would be if they had been able to bring Brian Heidik back. He makes Russell look like Snow White. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/12 "2010-04-16T02:19:26Z")
By the way, the tone of JT’s letter also indicates he has no idea if Russell has a strategic mind or not. It’s clear he has ZERO idea who Rusell really is. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/13 "2010-04-16T02:33:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > By the way, the tone of JT’s letter also indicates he has no idea if Russell has a strategic mind or not. It’s clear he has ZERO idea who Rusell really is. I love that letter because it would’ve have worked PERFECTLY if it had been given to Coach. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/14 "2010-04-16T03:39:56Z")
I’ve got the impression lots of contestants watch the episodes in a cluster of family and friends. I picture JT in a room full of people who are carefully not looking at him. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/15 "2010-04-16T03:45:38Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s actually a good plan if you realize his whole perception of Russel comes from this one game, which has been on the other side of the entire time. He has zero idea who he is and their assumption about a “girl alliance” is actually pretty reasonable. That’s my take, too. It only seems like a dumb move to us because we have perfect knowledge. Also, remember that JT is in trouble with his tribe for looking for the idol without them. Really the only way to redeem himself with them is to give the idol away in a way that helps the tribe. This _seemed_ to be a way to do that from JT’s limited perspective. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/16 "2010-04-16T04:00:23Z")
Ugh. I kinda wish nothing in this episode happened. First off, I HATE HATE HATE that stupid challenge they used for the reward one (and similar type ones). Want to have something involving balance and stamina? Okay, I’m down with that. But don’t set it up in such a way that whoever has the smallest feet has a huge advantage. That’s not testing stamina/endurance/balance, it’s testing your foot size. At least give each survivor personalized pegs proportional to their footsize. At least it was a reward challenge, not an immunity one. Secondly, JT, you are a moron. At least some of the other Heroes went along with the move just because it takes the idol out of JT’s hands. But why would you give the idol to someone you know nothing about? Terrible assumption on the women’s alliance. Not to mention someone who got put on the “Villains” tribe… should be an indicator there. I also despise Jerri at this point for not having a clue about what’s going on. Oh well, at least they voted off Courtney (who’s just annoying) instead of Sandra (who is annoying but actually makes good moves in the game). Seems like she’ll help unravel Russell’s schemes. I can only hope. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/17 "2010-04-16T04:23:51Z")
I really don’t think it’s fair that Russell was given such a huge advantage this season by coming into the group as a complete unknown. No one would be so quick to trust him, and \*certainly \*not give him idols, if they had actually already seen him play the game. It really stinks of favoritism by the producers or something. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/18 "2010-04-16T04:42:25Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > I really don’t think it’s fair that Russell was given such a huge advantage this season by coming into the group as a complete unknown. No one would be so quick to trust him, and \*certainly \*not give him idols, if they had actually already seen him play the game. It really stinks of favoritism by the producers or something. Really, they shouldn’t trust him _because_ they don’t know anything about him other than he’s a villain. The villains were right to distrust him almost immediately. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/19 "2010-04-16T04:44:42Z")
What was up with Sandra voting for Courtney? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280/20 "2010-04-16T04:46:57Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > What was up with Sandra voting for Courtney? Probably trying not to piss anyone off if she sticks around. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-april-15-2010/536280.md?page=2)