# Survivor Blood v Water season thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227 "2013-10-03T00:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/81 "2013-10-21T19:19:39Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > That wouldn’t prevent a pair of loved ones from being on the same tribe. It would be in addition to your rule. So to recap our combined suggestion: 2 captains, every pick results in your pick on your team, and their loved on on the other team. Each pick must alternate between vet and loved one. (I’m having a hard time saying that I don’t mean each pick must alternate. Capt A picks a vet first, and Capt B could also pick a vet, but their individual picks must alternate going forward) All this to result in 2 teams with 5 Vets and 5 Loved ones and no Loved Ones on the same team as their Vet. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/82 "2013-10-21T21:44:30Z")
Uh, what’s the current count of vets vs. loved ones? Not counting the RI people. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/83 "2013-10-21T22:00:32Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > It would be in addition to your rule. Oh, now I understand. Yeah, that would be a nice way to even out both teams. Good thinking. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/84 "2013-10-21T23:07:14Z")
> [@ekweizn](#): > > How does this not end with the veterans just voting out the loved ones? There would be 5 newbies and 5 veterans on each team. Why do you think it would end with the veterans just voting out the loved ones? ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/85 "2013-10-23T03:44:53Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > There would be 5 newbies and 5 veterans on each team. Why do you think it would end with the veterans just voting out the loved ones? Because of pre-game alliances between returning players? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/86 "2013-10-24T01:05:12Z")
Hilarious last Line from Kat that shows how really shallow she is. > [@](#): > > Who wants to date someone that doesn’t make the merge? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/87 "2013-10-24T01:11:09Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Hilarious last Line from Kat that shows how really shallow she is. Seriously. John and Laura are going to be seriously gunning for her at the next RI duel just to shut her the hell up. Vapid, vapid, vapid… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/88 "2013-10-24T01:18:31Z")
Oh, and while I don’t want to see Tina or Laura B go yet, one of them should probably have been the boot tonight. How do you completely forget to get the thing you need to get? How long before had the rules of the challenge been told to them? How does that even happen? It doesn’t even make LOGICAL sense…why would the challenge to be just to release the gate? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/89 "2013-10-24T03:14:20Z")
Lame RI puzzle tonight. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/90 "2013-10-24T03:31:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Lame RI puzzle tonight. Yeah. At the very least, the bags should have been randomized instead of being sequential. You should have to get all four bags before you can start the puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/91 "2013-10-24T04:00:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Lame RI puzzle tonight. They have had the challenge before, as an Immunity challenge. I think it is designed so a player like Kat can finish it. ZINNNNNNGGG Yes, randomizing the tiles would have made the puzzle marginally harder ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/92 "2013-10-24T05:33:00Z")
Yeah, that RI puzzle was pretty dang toothless. Put the onus on the balance beam portion of it, which of course Laura, being a short woman, won easily. And jeez, Kat is so dumb. SO DUMB. I think the last couple seasons they’ve really tried to pick veterans with major flaws (who are still entertaining) because the veterans always smash the newbies. Not that that’s helped or actually happened, but I think that’s the thought behind it. Also, I think one of the big Survivor meta strategies I’m learning is _don’t blab to the older women_. They seem to be more likely to repeat it to other people and throw you under the bus than anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/93 "2013-10-24T05:47:21Z")
I dunno; I didn’t think the RI challenge was all that lame - I saw it as more of a dexterity challenge than a mental one, though it did bug me that Probst referred to the final tile arrangement as a “puzzle”. It’s a blindingly simple concept, but arranging all those tiles in the proper order and orientation under a tremendous amount of pressure doesn’t seem like it would be as easy as it sounds. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/94 "2013-10-24T13:33:17Z")
Current count of family vs vets is 6 family/5 vets. I need to learn the team names now but former vets team has Tina and Monica on the vets side with Laura, Katie and Vytas representing family. Former family team is balanced with Tyson, Gervase and Aras representing the vets and Hayden, Caleb and Ciera on the family side. Interestingly we’re now down to only two pairs of vet/family left in the game. Tina/Katie and Aras/Vytas. I suspect the target on Aras just got even larger, I wonder if it’s large enough for Gerv and Tyson to consider throwing the challenge? Also, go Gervase! Holy cow his swimming really improved. He’s clearly been working on it at camp. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/95 "2013-10-24T15:38:41Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > It’s funny how everyone forgets about Aras, despite the fact that he actually won! Then again, I only remember him because one of the posters here was his friend and gave us interesting details about watching the show with him. I’m not sure, but that may have been me, but I don’t know Aras, just know a friend of his who was at the LA bar when the CBS casting director came to their table and asked for everyone’s phone number. I forget how many went on shows, but 2 of them won shows (BB and Survivor). [CBS.com](http://CBS.com) showed Aras at home watching his winning season (A clip) and my friend was in it. \ I’m not sure it was a rule but the RI challenge seems to require them to place the pieces down in sequence. It seems you couldn’t put the 10 at the top right until you had 1-9 already placed. Otherwise why weren’t they using 2 tiles at a time? Maybe they were just trying to be careful. I’m so glad there aren’t any real ‘jerks’ left in the game. Maybe Tyson, but only sometimes. No one is trying to bring a hate-able player with them to the end. It’s refreshing. I keep thinking that Russel Hantz must be at home screaming, “I never needed no clue to find immunity!” ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/96 "2013-10-24T15:41:35Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I’m not sure, but that may have been me, but I don’t know Aras, just know a friend of his who was at the LA bar when the CBS casting director came to their table and asked for everyone’s phone number. I forget how many went on shows, but 2 of them won shows (BB and Survivor). [CBS.com](http://CBS.com) showed Aras at home watching his winning season (A clip) and my friend was in it. \ It was a Doper named **Lockseer**. He was pretty active in the threads that season. Here’s the [Finale thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371629). ---
**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/97 "2013-10-24T17:51:04Z")
I really enjoy Tyson as a contestant. His narration was entertaining and illuminating of his strategy. But what was his thing about belief? That he doesn’t believe in anything, except magic? Uh, isn’t he a Mormon…? ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/98 "2013-10-24T18:01:03Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > It was a Doper named **Lockseer**. He was pretty active in the threads that season. Here’s the [Finale thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371629). I feel like I should have seen that at the time 😛 What was I doing with my time? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/99 "2013-10-24T18:25:52Z")
> [@araminty](#): > > I really enjoy Tyson as a contestant. His narration was entertaining and illuminating of his strategy. > > But what was his thing about belief? That he doesn’t believe in anything, except magic? Uh, isn’t he a Mormon…? It’s Tyson. Any given confessional has a random chance of being complete bullshit done to troll the editors and the fans. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227/100 "2013-10-24T20:08:16Z")
> [@araminty](#): > > But what was his thing about belief? That he doesn’t believe in anything, except magic? Uh, isn’t he a Mormon…? I think he’s a very casual Mormom. Culturally growing up and so forth. He probably believes, but is not strict. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-v-water-season-thread/670227.md?page=6)