# Survivor Blood vs. Water 2 finale - Tonight December 17 (and live finale) open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 17, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524 "2014-12-17T21:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/41 "2014-12-22T10:22:52Z")
Crazies: Shane from Cirie’s first season, and the hippie chick from the same season, Courtney. Kass Matt, the guy with the machete from Amazon Zane from Abi-Maria’s season, who volunteered to get booted, thinking that would somehow protect him Wanda, who sang all the time Yao Man was crazy like a fox, but what about Cao Boi from Yul’s season Dreamz Judd, man ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/42 "2014-12-22T13:48:46Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Some movie reminded me of an old-school Survivor challenge I wish they’d bring back: > > A metal grate is fastened to lay across the surface of the water. (Think of a prison door laid on its side.) Everyone goes under the grate and sticks their head up between the bars to breathe. Then the tide comes in, eventually submerging the bars. Last one to bail wins. I loved that challenge. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/43 "2014-12-22T15:33:45Z")
I was just in Afghanistan and I downloaded a couple of old seasons that I had missed, I was really struck by how much better the gameplay was in those seasons; people really seemed to be thinking two moves ahead, but getting taken out by someone thinking three moves ahead. This past season just seemed lackluster compared to the early seasons. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/44 "2014-12-22T15:38:40Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Some movie reminded me of an old-school Survivor challenge I wish they’d bring back: > > A metal grate is fastened to lay across the surface of the water. (Think of a prison door laid on its side.) Everyone goes under the grate and sticks their head up between the bars to breathe. Then the tide comes in, eventually submerging the bars. Last one to bail wins. [Botox Lip Surgery](http://www.big10tens.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/plastic-surgery-fails-0001.png) gone wrong would be handy for this challenge ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/45 "2014-12-22T15:40:50Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I was just in Afghanistan and I downloaded a couple of old seasons that I had missed, I was really struck by how much better the gameplay was in those seasons; people really seemed to be thinking two moves ahead, but getting taken out by someone thinking three moves ahead. This past season just seemed lackluster compared to the early seasons. So true! It appears to me that game play has lost out to the weirdness factor. The “challenges” almost always revolve around solving puzzles, too. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/46 "2014-12-22T15:42:08Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > [Botox Lip Surgery](http://www.big10tens.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/plastic-surgery-fails-0001.png) gone wrong would be handy for this challenge Is it just me or do those lips look sideways? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/47 "2014-12-22T15:45:45Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Is it just me or do those lips look sideways? 😃 You just need to cock your head. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/48 "2014-12-22T15:46:54Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I was just in Afghanistan and I downloaded a couple of old seasons that I had missed, I was really struck by how much better the gameplay was in those seasons; people really seemed to be thinking two moves ahead, but getting taken out by someone thinking three moves ahead. This past season just seemed lackluster compared to the early seasons. For frame of reference…what seasons? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/49 "2014-12-22T15:58:28Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > For frame of reference…what seasons? We could be referring to different things but in my own case the season that introduced Rupert was a turning point away from strategy and manipulation of the other contestants and toward an emphasis on “personality” and “quirkiness.” JMHO. (I’ll have to check for season number.) I will say that the Rupert introductory season was the last one I really enjoyed. I watch now more out of habit and because _Survivor_’s time slot rarely has much competition in my taste range. ETA: [Survivor: Pearl Islands - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor:_Pearl_Islands) Season 7 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/50 "2014-12-22T16:09:31Z")
Rupert’s first season? Good gawd, that was over 10 years ago, and it was the last one you enjoyed? Why do you keep watching then? Reminds me of the line. “I like jamming ice picks in my ear because it feels so good when I stop.” The only thing I remember about that season was the ghost tribe, and Fairplay lying about his grandmother dying. I think Cook Islands was my favorite season. I didn’t like this season at all, nor the other BvW. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/51 "2014-12-22T16:13:30Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Rupert’s first season? Good gawd, that was over 10 years ago, and it was the last one you enjoyed? Why do you keep watching then? > > \<\< clipped \>\> It’s more of a “family thing” where we bet on who’s going to last longer. That much is fun because I win more than I lose. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/52 "2014-12-22T18:09:26Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The “challenges” almost always revolve around solving puzzles, too. This season they did a great job moving away from having all the challenges revolve around solving puzzles. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524/53 "2014-12-25T16:59:24Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > For frame of reference…what seasons? Sorry, I was traveling and missed this. I just watched Fuji and Micronesia for the first time. There were some great tribals where both sides think they are about to blindside the other, just a lot of fun. I still enjoy the show, but it just doesn’t seem to be at that level. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-blood-vs-water-2-finale-tonight-december-17-and-live-finale-open-spoilers/707524.md?page=2)