# Survivor - Cambodia \[10/7/15\] (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 8, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934 "2015-10-08T15:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/1 "2015-10-08T15:59:19Z")
Obligatory space to avoid spoilers Not sure how I felt about the move from 2 to 3 tribes. The re-shuffling is random enough, but making 1/3rd of the contestants have to re-shuffle AND rebuild seems way too unfair a disadvantage. The final vote was not a complete surprise to the viewers, but it sure looked like Peih-Gee was surprised. I am enjoying the way they are placing the hidden immunity idols in a public space, although retrieving them has yet to create a problem. If you haven’t been following Dalton Ross’ recaps all these years, [this week’s is great](http://www.ew.com/recap/survivor-season-31-episode-3). A snip: > [@](#): > > Woo looks like that dog that keeps waiting at the train station for his dead owner to come back from work in some weepy Richard Gere movie — a mixture of confusion and mild depression. I want to reach out, scratch his head, tell him he’s a good boy, and hook him up with a Milk-Bone or something. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/2 "2015-10-08T17:59:05Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > Not sure how I felt about the move from 2 to 3 tribes. The re-shuffling is random enough, but making 1/3rd of the contestants have to re-shuffle AND rebuild seems way too unfair a disadvantage. I like the split (I still think they should do a Survivor season where the tribes get swapped or rearranged after every TC), but I agree that making one team have to start from nothing was lame, especially since they already got what I think is the weakest challenge tribe. They didn’t even spare them a bag of rice! > [@](#): > > I am enjoying the way they are placing the hidden immunity idols in a public space, although retrieving them has yet to create a problem. I think the problem is that so far no one else is even aware that the Idols can be found during the challenges. If everyone knew it, they could keep an eye out. I thought today’s would be somewhat obvious, but Jeremy did a great job of moving into position and grabbing it before anyone else was in sight and could say “hey why do we have a weird little package on the front of our box?” That is a great way to describe Woo, too. Guy complains about always being the last to find out… well, Woo, that’s because you’re not playing the game. If I were Savaga/Tasha I would look to bring him in though, as he’d be much more reliable as an ally than Varner or Abi. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/3 "2015-10-08T18:21:56Z")
Hiding the idols at the challenges is a neat gimmick, but they’ll only be able to get away with it this season. Next season everyone will spend the whole challenge looking for the idols. BTW, in Dalton’s recap last week, he said they’ll only actual put an idol on the course if someone found a clue for it, and presumably only for that particular person’s props in the challenge. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/4 "2015-10-08T18:56:31Z")
I would imagine that the three tribe twist is only going to last one more TC. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/5 "2015-10-08T21:02:48Z")
Would the hidden immunity idol at challenges twist have been better if Jeff had announced it at the first challenge? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/6 "2015-10-09T23:25:56Z")
> [@ekweizn](#): > > Would the hidden immunity idol at challenges twist have been better if Jeff had announced it at the first challenge? No, that would have ruined it IMHO. There’s only so many places to hide one on a challenge course - having everyone look for one instead of running the course would ruin the challenges. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/7 "2015-10-10T00:17:02Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > No, that would have ruined it IMHO. There’s only so many places to hide one on a challenge course - having everyone look for one instead of running the course would ruin the challenges. I agree. I think the twist is a great one and a good way to stop people from just flat-out finding the immunity idols. Force them to take a risk in front of everyone to get them. They must have had countless meetings trying to come up with a solution to them always finding the idol. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/8 "2015-10-10T03:21:26Z")
Seems to me the HII is greatly overrated. People who find a clue to one act as if they’ve won $300 million dollars in a Powerball - and that’s only cuz they fiind a clue. I’d like to know, but I’m guessing that HII’s are used less than half the time they’ve been found. And how often have they’ve been used when they actually saved someone from eviction? I’m thinking that’s only happened 3 or 4 times in the whole show. Like I say, I could easily be wrong about that. But it just seems like people think a HII is worth a whole lot more than it turns out to be. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/9 "2015-10-10T05:50:31Z")
Okay, can we please vote off Abi Normal now? It was cute at first, but now I’m growing weary of seeing closeups of her puffy face and others giving her a free pass for her contradictory words and actions. There are so many interesting contestants this season, to have half the screen time of each episode (or so it seems) devoted to one of the five most detested players in Survivor history is ruining it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/10 "2015-10-10T06:49:05Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > Seems to me the HII is greatly overrated. > > People who find a clue to one act as if they’ve won $300 million dollars in a Powerball - and that’s only cuz they fiind a clue. > > I’d like to know, but I’m guessing that HII’s are used less than half the time they’ve been found. > > And how often have they’ve been used when they actually saved someone from eviction? I’m thinking that’s only happened 3 or 4 times in the whole show. > > Like I say, I could easily be wrong about that. But it just seems like people think a HII is worth a whole lot more than it turns out to be. I agree with this. I too would like to see the numbers/ratio but I doubt HIIs save people that often. Also I never understand the glee tribemates express over someone finding the idol. Finders always say they are going to use it for the tribe but that happens even less than it saving the finder. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/11 "2015-10-10T07:06:53Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > Okay, can we please vote off Abi Normal now? It was cute at first, but now I’m growing weary of seeing closeups of her puffy face and others giving her a free pass for her contradictory words and actions. > > There are so many interesting contestants this season, to have half the screen time of each episode (or so it seems) devoted to one of the five most detested players in Survivor history is ruining it for me. Unfortunately, until the merge most (all?) of the screen time after the immunity challenge is devoted to the losing tribe, and Abi is the most interesting person on the tribe that keeps losing. I agree there’s a bunch of interesting people, but they aren’t on tribes that lose immunity challenges. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/12 "2015-10-10T20:12:34Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I’d like to know, but I’m guessing that HII’s are used less than half the time they’ve been found. You can’t just go by “times they’ve been used” because the _threat_ of the HII can be just as important. Obviously, early on in the game, it’s better to keep quiet about it to avoid the target on your back it creates, but late game it can be better as a deterrent. I believe in Cagayan that everyone said they knew Tony had one, but no one wanted to try and go after him. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-10-7-15-spoilers/733934/13 "2015-10-15T20:43:32Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I’d like to know, but I’m guessing that HII’s are used less than half the time they’ve been found. It does seem to me that they’re used less than half the time, and then they’re used _effectively_ less than half the time as well. That said, last season, not only were 2 idols used to avoid getting voted off, the people who had them didn’t tell anybody about them so it came as more of a surprise. I loved how the woman who found the first idol threw Savage under the bus by telling the others on the new tribe that he spent all his time looking for one…