# Survivor: Cambodia 11/4 - "Play to Win" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735 "2015-11-05T17:49:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/21 "2015-11-06T19:20:14Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > Thank you. But it sure does seem like a strange kind of insult. Why would it be an insult to say that someone uses that kind of service? > > I don’t expect you to answer. I’m just trying to say that I find this very puzzling. Because anyone who uses twitter is a twit, and periscope is for those who can’t even write “twitterese”. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/22 "2015-11-06T19:30:12Z")
> [@SUZ\_MAC](#): > > This last tribal council was a shit storm and it went on for hours. Most of it was Tasha ranting and raving and playing the “racism” card and she went after Kass big time. Ciera said that while it looks like Savage is just a great guy he is actually just the opposite. There are obviously a lot of things that she can’t talk about yet, but it’s fun to get a behind the scenes play by play. Wowza. Someone I watched with commented that Tasha seemed overly upset-looking just for the Kass thing. Seeing that TC definitely would’ve negatively affected my outlook on Tasha. And maybe make Kass’ plan seem a bit better, though I still think she misplayed things badly. I find that pretty believable about Savage, actually. He completely gives off the ‘nice guy but really sees women as secondary citizens’ vibe to me. ---
**Author:** ![SUZ\_MAC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@SUZ\_MAC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUZ_MAC)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/23 "2015-11-06T21:15:49Z")
Ciera also mentioned that there was a significant “racial incident” that took place just before they headed out to tribal council. However, it won’t be aired. I asked her if it were Kass that was part of it and she said “absolutely not” ! She also said that the way Abi is being portrayed is very accurate and that it’s not a cultural thing at all. She went on to say that Abi really is genuinely a very nice girl. Apparently Savage is quite the bragger and it’s constant. What really took Ciera aback – she thought he was joking, but he wasn’t – was when he went off on one of his bragathons about his clients. His view: Jerry Springer – yes, the slimiest of slimes in the TV talk show world – is an awesome guy. A mentor. But when he worked for Oprah, she was nothing but a bitch and concluded “what can you expect from a woman in power”. Thanks all for the welcome. I’ll share more the next time I watch with Ciera. Let me know if you have any particular questions (within reason) that you would like me to ask her. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/24 "2015-11-06T22:13:08Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > One of my tops picks also. > [@magnusblitz](#): > > I like Spencer but the edit so far makes me think he’s the favorite to win Yeah, I think they are suggesting he is this year’s John Cochran. Which means he isn’t. But, still, I hope he is. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/25 "2015-11-06T22:33:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Because anyone who uses twitter is a twit, and periscope is for those who can’t even write “twitterese”. Aha! Now that makes sense. Thanks very much. That was a real puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/26 "2015-11-06T22:38:53Z")
NM. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/27 "2015-11-06T22:47:40Z")
> [@SUZ\_MAC](#): > > Ciera also mentioned that there was a significant “racial incident” that took place just before they headed out to tribal council. However, it won’t be aired. I asked her if it were Kass that was part of it and she said “absolutely not” ! She also said that the way Abi is being portrayed is very accurate and that it’s not a cultural thing at all. She went on to say that Abi really is genuinely a very nice girl. > > Apparently Savage is quite the bragger and it’s constant. What really took Ciera aback – she thought he was joking, but he wasn’t – was when he went off on one of his bragathons about his clients. His view: Jerry Springer – yes, the slimiest of slimes in the TV talk show world – is an awesome guy. A mentor. But when he worked for Oprah, she was nothing but a bitch and concluded “what can you expect from a woman in power”. > > Thanks all for the welcome. I’ll share more the next time I watch with Ciera. Let me know if you have any particular questions (within reason) that you would like me to ask her. Aren’t they supposed to be sworn to secrecy until the season is over? ---
**Author:** ![SUZ\_MAC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@SUZ\_MAC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUZ_MAC)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/28 "2015-11-06T23:06:15Z")
They are sworn to secrecy about many things. Once an episode has aired it’s no longer a secret. Giving opinions about how she feels about her fellow survivor mates is fine. They are all dueling it out on twitter during and after the episode. She has not said a peep about things that are upcoming. Not even a hint to Laura. In fact I asked Laura why Ciera hadn’t been participating in many of the challenges and she said she was wondering the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735/29 "2015-11-07T14:51:18Z")
As for Savage… I’m always suspicious of a guy who whitens his teeth like that. You’re so vain, anyone? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-11-4-play-to-win/736735.md?page=1)