# Survivor Cambodia: S31; E13 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149 "2015-12-11T04:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/21 "2015-12-12T21:17:37Z")
In his first season, Keith had a secret alliance, but then at tribal he said, “I think we should just stick to the plan.” Everyone else was like, “there’s a plan?” and scrambled to blow up the secret alliance at tribal. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/22 "2015-12-12T21:38:37Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > In his first season, Keith had a secret alliance, but then at tribal he said, “I think we should just stick to the plan.” Everyone else was like, “there’s a plan?” and scrambled to blow up the secret alliance at tribal. Yep, that was it! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/23 "2015-12-13T01:27:20Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I don’t know why the “so-called” fans voted her in this season. I found her to be a constant pain in the neck all season. It wasn’t as if she ruined this season for me. She would have had to be a whole lot more powerful to do that. > > But during every episode, I found myself wondering, "what can this explosive volcano do this week to mess up the plans of some good people - people who are much better players than her but stand to have their game ruined by her crazy antics. Well, she has a fairly hot body, and that craziness does make the show less predictable, which can be good. No, I didnt vote for her (nor Cass) but many like one or two “nuts” to season the mix. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/24 "2015-12-13T15:57:17Z")
I did not take the time to read every post in all preceding threads about the statement that some people have made which is something like this … “For the first time in the history of Survivor, something amazing happens this season” (which I guess would have to happen in the finale). But I read a post on another board where some people are speculating as to the meaning of that statement. This was not my idea. Someone else thought of it and I’m just posting it here because I thINK it might be fun for the members of this board to consider it. What happens if both people who have a HII play it and no one votes for anyone else except for those two people? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/25 "2015-12-13T16:03:40Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I did not take the time to read every post in all preceding threads about the statement that some people have made which is something like this … > > “For the first time in the history of Survivor, something amazing happens this season” (which I guess would have to happen in the finale). > > But I read a post on another board where some people are speculating as to the meaning of that statement. This was not my idea. Someone else thought of it and I’m just posting it here because I thINK it might be fun for the members of this board to consider it. > > What happens if both people who have a HII play it and no one votes for anyone else except for those two people? Then everyone votes again, but you can’t vote for the folks who had the HII. No? ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/26 "2015-12-13T16:09:55Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Abi was interesting in the end because she was a self aware goat. That might have made an interesting final tribal. > [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > Yes. If she was truly self-aware that she was a goat, that was a clever strategy. At least it was the best strategy that she could have used. At least it was the best strategy that I can see for her. > > But it was interesting that she was not suffiiently self-aware to call the other players “those crazy people” like she did in her parting remarks. > > If she was truly self-aware, she wouldn’t have done that because she would have known that people would laugh at her and think she was a fool for saying that - considering that she was one of the craziest of them all. Abi’s behind the scenes and Ponderosa videos make it clear that she is not at all self aware and truly believes that the world is out to get her. She sees everyone else’s faults very clearly but cannot see her own as anything other than mildly amusing quirks. > [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I did not take the time to read every post in all preceding threads about the statement that some people have made which is something like this … > > “For the first time in the history of Survivor, something amazing happens this season” (which I guess would have to happen in the finale). > > But I read a post on another board where some people are speculating as to the meaning of that statement. This was not my idea. Someone else thought of it and I’m just posting it here because I thINK it might be fun for the members of this board to consider it. > > What happens if both people who have a HII play it and no one votes for anyone else except for those two people? I’ve seen a lot of speculation about the “first time ever” trailer and I think it needs to be idol related 1. Two idols played, someone goes home with only a single vote against them. 2. Two idols played, no votes for anyone else - A revote with everyone but Kelley and Jeremy and whoever has individual immunity available to vote for makes the most sense here. Note: new trailer just released - there will be 4 tribal councils so it will be a final 3. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/27 "2015-12-13T16:13:50Z")
I don’t see why the two HII holders should not be part of the revote. They, like everyone else, voted for someone with a HII the first time. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/28 "2015-12-13T17:06:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I don’t see why the two HII holders should not be part of the revote. They, like everyone else, voted for someone with a HII the first time. Thank you John. I am still uncertain as to just how things might work out. I’ve never really liked the idea of HIIs. I think they are very overvalued and I I can’t understand why it seems like they have often been used to such great effect. Every time that happens, I am left scratching my head. I have to admit that, I just don’t get it. I don’t understand how they can seem to have such great power and value. Perhaps there is some kind of info leak somehow, somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149/29 "2015-12-14T00:35:57Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > Abi’s behind the scenes and Ponderosa videos make it clear that she is not at all self aware and truly believes that the world is out to get her. She sees everyone else’s faults very clearly but cannot see her own as anything other than mildly amusing quirks… i have no doubt that Abi thinks everyone else is the idiot, not her, but in the last episode, she said that she new they were keeping her around as the goat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cambodia-s31-e13/740149.md?page=1)