# Survivor: China - Ep. 3: "I Lost Two Hands and Possibly a Shoulder" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518 "2007-10-04T17:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/41 "2007-10-06T15:44:18Z")
[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong] Yay! Maybe the producers heard all our griping about ‘lazy black guy’ stereotypes. [/QUOTE] Well, Jon-Robert certainly foots the bill. I really can’t wait for dude to be gone. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/42 "2007-10-06T19:13:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by qwest > I think she’s kinda cute in an emaciated kind of way. EWWWWW! I think even the French fashion industry would look at Courtney and think, "_Mon Dieu!!!_ " Courtney’s biggest problem in the chopping part of the challenge was that she probably hasn’t eaten anything requiring a knife for several years, so she was out of practice! 😃 What’s even scarier is that contestants generally lose weight during the game; Courtney’s got nowhere to go on that score. I hope she gets voted off soon just so she doesn’t die! Anyone else think Denise in her undies was waaaay TMI? [QUOTE=jsc1953] Dave: now a nominee for the Survivor Tool Hall of Fame. [/QUOTE] Speaking of “tool”, I laughed my ass off at nekkid Dave’s “flying batch” move in the first challenge–especially how high up on the other guy he landed! Reminded me of a cartoon I saw once where a leashed dog was wrapped around someone’s face, humping away, while the owner says “He _likes_ you!” ---
**Author:** ![Dottygumdrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Dottygumdrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dottygumdrop)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/43 "2007-10-06T19:26:39Z")
Can someone ask the producers for subtitles when James speaks? I only understand about every third word! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/44 "2007-10-06T20:07:57Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] Well, Jon-Robert certainly foots the bill. I really can’t wait for dude to be gone. [/QUOTE] Is he Black? Maybe we need to link this thread to the GQ thread about African-Americans. 🙂 I kept asking my friends who were over to watch the show if they thought he was Black. He’s one of those borderline cases where it’s hard to tell. And yeah, he is annoying. I think he’s going to get voted off before he gets a chance to prove that he was only “pretending” to be lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/45 "2007-10-06T21:05:47Z")
I don’t understand, and would appreciate some enlightenment, as to why Dave(?) took his pants off for the challenge. The only thing I could come up with was that he figured no one would want to get anywhere near him. I’m also really tired of looking at certain (most) contestants in nothing but their underwear. I mean, does anyone actually think they look more attractive this way? I’ll take a nice Bikini any day. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/46 "2007-10-06T21:23:53Z")
[QUOTE=Ring] I don’t understand, and would appreciate some enlightenment, as to why Dave(?) took his pants off for the challenge. The only thing I could come up with was that he figured no one would want to get anywhere near him. [/QUOTE] I think it was a combination of a) no one wants to wrestle with a naked guy and b) without shorts there’s nothing for the other team to pull on. Except for… ya know. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/47 "2007-10-06T21:54:01Z")
My first thought was that he was going up some pretty hetero-looking guys and that, as **Justin Bailey** says, that might make them reluctant to get too close. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/48 "2007-10-06T22:19:27Z")
[QUOTE=Ring] I’m also really tired of looking at certain (most) contestants in nothing but their underwear. I mean, does anyone actually think they look more attractive this way? I’ll take a nice Bikini any day. [/QUOTE] I think we’re seeing cases of women who didn’t pack a bikini. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/49 "2007-10-06T22:30:57Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I think we’re seeing cases of women who didn’t pack a bikini. [/QUOTE] More like they weren’t wearing bikinis under their nice clothes they were told to wear for the non-religious Buddhist welcoming ceremony. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/50 "2007-10-06T22:41:53Z")
[QUOTE=Terminus Est] More like they weren’t wearing bikinis under their nice clothes they were told to wear for the non-religious Buddhist welcoming ceremony. [/QUOTE] No doubt, but damn I agree with **Ring**. I miss the days of Parvati and her black bikini. Hopefully the producers move away from this “nothing but the clothes on your back” crap in future seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/51 "2007-10-07T02:38:00Z")
One last thing: isn’t that just the greatest Survivor nightmare to be have to face off in some uber-physical challenge and be staring across at… James!?! :eek: He is, without a doubt, the greatest physical specimen in the history of the show. Watching the Daves & Eriks of the world square up to him is like being a pee-wee football player and lining up to block [Lawrence Taylor](http://espn.go.com/i/classic/1004/photo/c_lt6_i.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/52 "2007-10-07T03:16:27Z")
I’d drop and roll at his legs. Unless, of course, I didn’t have any pants on. In that case I’d jump in the water before he could get to me. I still can’t believe that idiot Dave did that. Wouldn’t it have been great if someone grabbed him by his gorgonzolas and wung him into the lake. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/53 "2007-10-07T03:45:37Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] Anyone else think Denise in her undies was waaaay TMI? [/QUOTE] Not as TMI as Denise out of her undies. I actually felt sorry for the editors. ---
**Author:** ![Stillwell\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@Stillwell\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stillwell_Angel)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/54 "2007-10-07T13:36:10Z")
Courtney chipping away at that rope, wow. I will forever more call her Mr. Burns… ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/55 "2007-10-07T14:31:45Z")
[QUOTE=Ring] I still can’t believe that idiot Dave did that. Wouldn’t it have been great if someone grabbed him by his gorgonzolas and wung him into the lake. [/QUOTE] LOL. I don’t know if ‘wung’ is a word, but I can picture exactly what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/56 "2007-10-07T15:56:54Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] LOL. I don’t know if ‘wung’ is a word, but I can picture exactly what you mean. [/QUOTE] In this context? Clearly, it’s the past tense of “wang”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/57 "2007-10-08T12:17:06Z")
A quick heads-up, for anyone who may be interested: from last week’s previews, this week’s _House_ appears to have a _Survivor_ homage, with House invoking Tribal Council imagery while narrowing down candidates in the assemble-a-new-team plotline. We now return you to your weekly _Survivor_ thread, already in progress. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/58 "2007-10-08T18:07:10Z")
_Hi, everybody!_ I meant to pop in over the weekend but I was in mourning, and then I had to go to a karaoke wedding, which means I am still working off the hangover. There just ain’t enough Mountain Dew and Tylenol Arthritis _in the world_, yo. Anyway: you all said what I would have had I been here, which makes me wonder about my place in the world and stuff, but I will save my existential crises for another day, or at least a different thread. But I did want to link to [Dave’s favorites list](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor15/survivors/dave.shtml?view=fav) and then ask the following questions: [ol] [li]Am I the _only_ person whose gaydar is being pinged by Dave? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) No significant other of any kind is listed in his bio, and … _come on_, now. _Frangipani?_ “Deep hues of blue”?[/li][li]If Dave _is_ gay, does anyone else think he might be trying to work the Richard-Hatch-patented “FNF” strategy? The Hatch spent a lot of time inexplicably (and unforgiveably) naked – could Dave be a “student of the game” who is trying to replicate that?[/li][li]For that matter, does anyone else think that, from a certain angle, Dave _kind of_ resembles Hatch too? Maybe they are long-lost brothers, or father-son, or something. There is a resemblance that I see, and also a similarity of behavior and attitudes, that I find _uncanny_.[/li][/ol] ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/59 "2007-10-08T18:22:30Z")
Yay, **rockle** ’s back! So THAT’S what that noise is! My gaydar doesn’t get much use… I have the tolerances set so tight it hardly ever goes off. Constant pinging whenever Dave is on the screen, though. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) I suspect I won’t be hearing it much longer, though. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/60 "2007-10-08T18:26:00Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] _Hi, everybody!_ I meant to pop in over the weekend but I was in mourning, and then I had to go to a karaoke wedding, which means I am still working off the hangover. There just ain’t enough Mountain Dew and Tylenol Arthritis _in the world_, yo. [/QUOTE] My condolences. Man, the Sports Illustrated cover jinx rose up & bit you guys hugely. FNF? explain, please? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518.md?page=4)