# Survivor: China - Ep. 3: "I Lost Two Hands and Possibly a Shoulder" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518 "2007-10-04T17:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/61 "2007-10-08T18:29:45Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] FNF? explain, please? [/QUOTE] I believe that is Fat Naked Fag. Don’t think Dave will have a chance to get fat during the show, though. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/62 "2007-10-08T18:31:23Z")
Was there any doubt about Dave’s gayness? What’s a deep shade of grey, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/63 "2007-10-08T22:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] My condolences. Man, the Sports Illustrated cover jinx rose up & bit you guys hugely. [/quote] Much appreciated. For the record (and totally not germane to this particular discussion), I am not disappointed _in_ the Phillies, but I am disappointed _for_ them. They played like _hell_ for the last three weeks, and I can’t really think of a worse way to go down than in a sweep to the Rox, who I believe won that game against the Padres fraudulently, anyway. But these guys are young (and _ **hawt!** _) and I believe there are more playoff seasons in their future, as long as we buy some _goddamned pitchers and stop letting Drunken Uncle Charlie call the shots_. But _annnnnnnnnnnnyway_ … > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > FNF? explain, please? > > I believe that is Fat Naked Fag. Correctamundo, my good man and/or woman. Don’t know whether it was an in-joke between Hatch and Dr. Sean, or what, but I remember it coming up, and I sort of wondered if that was what Dave was going for here. Although, I don’t know. He’s kind of a wingnut. I think it was the “strategy” of doing the challenge in the altogether that convinced me that Dave is either some kind of evil genius, or a complete wackadoodle. Or maybe both: I know for sure that it wasn’t a binary condition for Hatch. **Terminus Est** : It just occurred to me this week that maybe Dave was gay, although I wonder if I _should_ have suspected earlier, when he wanted to build himself a designer rustic fireplace and not, you know, _eat something_. And I have _no idea_ what another shade of gray would be. Is there a difference between “dusty” and “dusky”? “Stone” and “slate”? What about “iron,” “pewter,” and “lead”? Maybe it’s a good thing I am not a decorator, or a J. Crew copy writer. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/64 "2007-10-09T14:23:39Z")
[QUOTE=Terminus Est] Was there any doubt about Dave’s gayness? What’s a deep shade of grey, anyway? [/QUOTE] If you gave 100 people Dave’s favorites list and Todd’s favorites list and asked which one was gay, I think every single person would pick Dave. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/65 "2007-10-09T14:40:03Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Am I the _only_ person whose gaydar is being pinged by Dave? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) [/QUOTE] I have to admit I was doubtful until I checked your link. Touch rugby? Why not just say, “Feeling up sweaty men”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/66 "2007-10-09T17:18:58Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] If you gave 100 people Dave’s favorites list and Todd’s favorites list and asked which one was gay, I think every single person would pick Dave. [/QUOTE] I’d probably ask if “both” was an option, because: Desperate Housewives? “Venti Non-Fat White Chocolate Mocha, Iced from Starbucks”? Justin Timberlake? Again, not that there’s anything wrong with that. I guess it just never occurred to me that the flight attendant would be the _less_ gay option. Am I weird, or just sheltered? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518/67 "2007-10-09T21:13:29Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] 1. For that matter, does anyone else think that, from a certain angle, Dave _kind of_ resembles Hatch too? Maybe they are long-lost brothers, or father-son, or something. There is a resemblance that I see, and also a similarity of behavior and attitudes, that I find _uncanny_. [/QUOTE] For me, every time I see Dave, I see David Hasselhoff. Separated at birth? Father & Son? [You be the judge](http://www.amschwartz.net/jillandthomas/images/davevsdavid.jpg). Even the way he talks reminds me of the Hoff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-china-ep-3-i-lost-two-hands-and-possibly-a-shoulder/421518.md?page=3)