# Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 1 - "I Can Forgive Her But I Don't Have To ..." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695 "2006-09-14T15:40:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/21 "2006-09-14T21:13:39Z")
> [@Mr. Rosewater](#): > > WTFDTM?\* > (I don’t understand your acronym) The End Of The World As We Know It. And I feel fine. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Rosewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@Mr.Rosewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Rosewater)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/22 "2006-09-14T21:19:07Z")
That makes a whole lot more sense that what I was comming up with. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/23 "2006-09-14T21:20:27Z")
Virgilio seems to be the only chunky one, a wrestler. It’s good to seem him lose weight. ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/24 "2006-09-14T22:05:29Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I watched the special preview on TV Guide Channel, and I am really stoked. Of course, I always am, until at least Week 3, when everybody annoys me all at once, or when Jeff starts getting pissy. Glad to know we’re not the only ones who watched it! Mark Burnett (or was it the casting chickie?) specifically stated that people were always bugging out about the one or two non-whites on each season, but that the casting was representative of the applications. They said that over 80% of the applicants are always white. So, that’s how they cast the show. Makes sense to me. Go Honkies\*! This is not intended to be a racist comment - just rooting for “my” team. If I was a slanty-eye, I’d root for the slanty-eyes. Same as if I were a wetback or a darkie. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/25 "2006-09-14T22:11:38Z")
> [@Avarie537](#): > > This is not intended to be a racist comment - just rooting for “my” team. If I was a slanty-eye, I’d root for the slanty-eyes. Same as if I were a wetback or a darkie. I just laughed so hard I might have wet myself a little. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/26 "2006-09-14T22:22:02Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I just laughed so hard I might have wet myself a little. Yeah, me too. **Avarie** , I think I lurve you. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/27 "2006-09-14T22:29:55Z")
I can’t believe I’m looking forward to this show starting again. I don’t mind the Great 2006 Ratings Ploy, but I do object to the fact that only _one_ of their candidates is from somewhere other than the East or West Coast! (And more than half from Southern California!) I call geographicism! (Is there such a word?) Anyway, let’s just hope this one doesn’t end up as boring as so many of them do. I can’t imagine they’ll stick with such a large cast for very long, which is my only hope of getting to know who any of them are. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/28 "2006-09-14T23:43:34Z")
> [@Mama Tiger](#): > > I can’t believe I’m looking forward to this show starting again. I don’t mind the Great 2006 Ratings Ploy, but I do object to the fact that only _one_ of their candidates is from somewhere other than the East or West Coast! (And more than half from Southern California!) I call geographicism! (Is there such a word?) Maybe as a run-up to the 2008 elections, they should have Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Foreigners (I guess I didn’t realize non-U.S. citizens are ineligible to compete). ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/29 "2006-09-14T23:52:22Z")
Thanks for the heads-up on this episode. I would have missed it. I haven’t seen the last few seasons due to work schedule and lack of VCR or Tivo. I’m looking forward to seeing this. On one hand, I agree that the race thing is a gimmick, but it does ensure that there will be many fewer generic young white bread types. Of course, most of these folks could be just as generic–but at least they won’t be white bread. (Whole wheat, rye, and pumpernickel?) At this point, I’m rooting for the Latinos and the Asians. Gotta represent, yo. (What the hell am I talking about? I’m a redheaded Jew!) Anybody notice that an absurd number of the contestants were born in Queens? ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/30 "2006-09-15T00:01:06Z")
_pops the popcorn and settles into the couch_ ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/31 "2006-09-15T00:12:29Z")
I’m white but how can I not root for the nail salon manager? Also, the Korean guy is totally, totally hot. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/32 "2006-09-15T00:31:17Z")
This is my first ever time watching Survivor. Yes, the gimmick worked with me \. Are there always this many %\*&#& commercials? Asian guys and big white guy are hot. So far, most of the Latino and black guys not making a big impression. Another shallow question: Are the ladies given shaving stuff, or are we going to be seeing hairy pits and ragged eyebrows in a couple of weeks? ---
**Author:** ![melondeca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@melondeca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melondeca)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/33 "2006-09-15T00:52:16Z")
> [@Avarie537](#): > > This is not intended to be a racist comment - just rooting for “my” team. If I was a slanty-eye, I’d root for the slanty-eyes. Same as if I were a wetback or a darkie. _laughing too hard…can’t breathe_ ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Venom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc348/32.png) [@Lady\_Venom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_Venom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/34 "2006-09-15T01:10:55Z")
I honestly didn’t expect to like this season that much. I LOVED IT! You know what I really liked? There wasn’t one moment where I was like “Whoa, that person HAS to go” a la Wanda from Palau. I liked pretty much everyone, even Chao Boi. Wow, pretty sparse exile island, huh? And to answer your question **Mehitabel** , usually towards the middle of the show a tribe will win a luxury basket full of toiletries, but expect to see some hairiness soon! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/35 "2006-09-15T01:24:06Z")
Coolest TC set _ever_. Pirate ship! That’s awesome. Cao Boi is either going to be awesome for the duration of his stay, or he’s going to go seriously crazy by episode five or so. I very much look forward to whichever one it is. 🙂 Bad Wind. I get that when I eat broccoli. Am I the only person who gets mildly annoyed when players can’t spell each other’s names? I realize that Sundra might not be an intuitive spelling, but I’d take the time to learn. But I’m also a spelling Nazi. Good on Jonathan for the “A” thing … but did he miss the whole second part of the clue about the southern island disappearing? ---
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/36 "2006-09-15T01:38:23Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Am I the only person who gets mildly annoyed when players can’t spell each other’s names? I realize that Sundra might not be an intuitive spelling, but I’d take the time to learn. But I’m also a spelling Nazi. Might be bad form to ask about the exact spelling of another players name. Particularly while on the way to TC. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/37 "2006-09-15T01:39:44Z")
BOO having so many contestants that I don’t who’s who yet, except for Yul and Sekou and Ozzy and Nathan and Stephannie and Jonathan-the-Chicken-Thief and that girl Candice on the Blue/White tribe who looks like Genie Francis (who I only remember because she looks like Genie Francis)! HOORAY beer … er, I mean, Burnett! I mean, dividing the tribes by race was one way to go, and it certainly sucked me back into watching (not that it was _hard_ to do that), but as we all pretty much figured, it was kind of a non-starter. People are people, no matter what – only three days into the game, anyway. And regardless of gender, age, race, country of origin, occupation, or sexual orientation, I think we can _all_ agree that Our Friend Flicka has some _pretty bad hair_. My random non-spoiler-type thoughts on the night so far: [ul] [li]Gorgeous, gorgeous, _gorgeous_ location. The water, the beaches, the critters – everything looks _so lovely!_ The sharks made me miss Palau for like half a second, until that whale breached, all: “Bite me[sup]\*[/sup], suckers! I crush Palau _like a bug!_”[/li][li]We saw a lot of sterotypes tonight, but not in the way anyone expected, I don’t think. More like archetypes, sort of. On every tribe we seem to have the Silverback Male, the Broncin’ Buck, the Hot Girlfriend, the “Anchor,” and the Wild Card/Reality Boyfriend. (Which, for those of you keeping score at home, would also be my favorites: the surfer dude [Ozzy] and the Project Runway refugee [Brad].) Burnett is _so_ predictable that way.[/li][li]I had _absolutely no idea_ that chickens could swim. Seriously. This might be the _coolest thing_ I’ve learned on this show, _ever_. Did you all know this already? _Why did nobody tell me?_ I thought you guys were my friends.[/li][/ul] And one spoilery-type question, which I will box, because this was a good episode and I don’t want to be too bitchy yet: They gave Hiki free fire – _the hell?_ Didn’t Jeff used to say Tribes had to “_earn_ their fire,” as long ago as _last freaking season_? Again: _the hell?_ So, yeah … Burnett owns the half of my soul that doesn’t already belong to Bruckheimer. [RIGHT]\*\* Double **rockle** Bonus Points if anyone recognizes the reference.\*[/RIGHT] ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/38 "2006-09-15T02:01:31Z")
I was surprised by the thing in the spoiler box, too. And not real pleased. I know they had to earn it on All-Stars, and I didn’t watch last season (there was one more season between All Stars and last season wasn’t there? I think I watched that one). It seems to reduce the value of being on team two or three at the immunity challenge. I hope that’s sufficiently vague for anyone too curious to stay out of the thread, but not ready to find out what happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/39 "2006-09-15T02:05:43Z")
it always amazes me that people picked for this show don’t practice fire by friction. any tenderfoot boy scout can do it. it is really not that difficult, it just takes practice ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/40 "2006-09-15T02:08:29Z")
> [@Eureka](#): > > … (there was one more season between All Stars and last season wasn’t there? I think I watched that one) … There were actually _three_: [Vanuatu](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/), [Palau](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/), and [Guatemala](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/). Can you _imagine_? This show is in its 13th season already. I feel _old_, all of the sudden. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=3)