# Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 1 - "I Can Forgive Her But I Don't Have To ..." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695 "2006-09-14T15:40:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/61 "2006-09-15T13:14:47Z")
> [@Green Bean](#): > > Ozzy is incredibly beautiful. He seems moderately cool at this point. Yes, he _is_ quite lovely to look at, no? And I _forgot_ about him climbing up the tree, monkey-style, because I was so entranced by his hair and his skinny-dorky-surfer-_duuude_-ness, but that was _totally awesome_. Obviously he is my new Ian – _love them Mexicans!_ (Just ask my husband.) But, as I mentioned before, since he is my favorite, don’t expect him to finish any better than 3rd. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/62 "2006-09-15T13:38:12Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Is it wrong that I was so happy the chickens got away? Run free little cluckers, run free. Right there with you on that. What were they going to do with them anyway? 2 chickens will make a meal for 5 people, but that’s about it. What are they going to use for spices? Plain old boiled chicken? No thanks…I’ll stick to fresh fish and coconuts. If they were eggers, even more conflict. Who gets the egg today? Nope, the chickens were a distraction. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/63 "2006-09-15T13:48:49Z")
Re the spoiler thingy, I wondered the same thing, but thought this location might get colder at night than previous ones such that they were concerned about hypothermia. Also, in some of the earlier seasons at TC weren’t the teams told “You now have fire”? Explain to me why the dreadlocked dude was acting all satisfied “Now THAT’S what I’m talking about” over the opportunity to exile someone. You just finished 4th out of 4, guy! Can’t wait to hear Cowboy’s Asian jokes next week. (The punchline is)a rancher. One dog would have been a vegetarian! Didn’t sound like they were going over too well. Despite my anti-waitstaff prejudice, I was pulling for monkeyboy. Noticed that 2 teams were 2 men/3 women, and the other 2 were 3 men/2women. Wonder how soon they will merge, and whether it will be to 2 or 3 teams. What the hell is with thes “occupations.” Unless by “boxer” that chick means she is a “packager”! ---
**Author:** ![mks57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@mks57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mks57)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/64 "2006-09-15T14:40:51Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Is it wrong that I was so happy the chickens got away? Run free little cluckers, run free. It reminded me of the last season when some idiot dropped the Hawaiian sling in deep water. Oopsie! I would have been tempted to tell the guilty individual to search for the chickens and not to return to camp without them. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/65 "2006-09-15T14:51:18Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Is it wrong that I was so happy the chickens got away? Run free little cluckers, run free. That was my favorite part. All that was missing was the “Yakety Sax” music. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/66 "2006-09-15T14:57:43Z")
Why o why can’t they make the first ep at least 90 minutes? I would love to have more time to try to figure out who’s who and get to know these people a little bit better. And how in the name of Og do you find two fire dancers in a row? I guess when your “casting” comes in the form of walking up and down a beach asking people if they’d ever considered auditioning for Survivor, you can pick the weird ones. Cirie was painful to watch on the TV Guide Channel preview. Ugh. Why in the world did they let her just stand there with her arms behind her back the whole time? And she sounded like a third-grader trying to learn with phonics reading the teleprompter. Go Honkies! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/67 "2006-09-15T15:04:55Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > [li]I had _absolutely no idea_ that chickens could swim. Seriously. This might be the _coolest thing_ I’ve learned on this show, _ever_. Did you all know this already? _Why did nobody tell me?_ I thought you guys were my friends.[/li][/list] “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/68 "2006-09-15T15:14:03Z")
What the hell is a “roller girl”? don’t make me look it up on the website. Jonathan the Chicken-Thief (snerk) sounds \*exactly \* like Alan Alda. Has any survivor, at any time, \*ever \* succeded in making a fire by rubbing sticks together? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/69 "2006-09-15T15:21:02Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Jonathan the Chicken-Thief (snerk) sounds \*exactly \* like Alan Alda. Thank you. I spent half the show trying to figure out who his voice reminded me of! ---
**Author:** ![Lips\_Obsession](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@Lips\_Obsession](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lips_Obsession)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/70 "2006-09-15T15:29:59Z")
Was I the only one who noticed several of the girls wearing either stockings(blue??) or long socks in several scenes??? I think Rollergirl was one of them… What was up with that??? ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/71 "2006-09-15T15:37:27Z")
Jonathan the Chicken Thief seems awfully familiar… Yep - Listed as a writer on the show but Actor. [He was on that Showtime show, Rude Awakening, with Sherlyn Finn](http://www.survivorscoop.com/cookislands/cast/johnathan-penner/) among other things. Holy Cow! [He was nominated for an Oscar](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672103/awards)? “From Oscar to Survivor: What People Will Do For Fame… Next on Access Hollywood.” If they keep bringing actors on every year, can we start requesting a few? I think it would be cool if the published a list of B actors and we got to vote one \*\*onto \*\* the island. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/72 "2006-09-15T16:16:03Z")
[QUOTE=Lips\_Obsession] Was I the only one who noticed several of the girls wearing either stockings(blue??) or long socks in several scenes??? I think Rollergirl was one of them… What was up with that??? [/QUOTE] The first time I remember seeing this particular fashion statement, it was worn by [Julie Berry](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/survivors/bios/julie.shtml) in Vanuatu. I kind of think it’s a way to keep your legs covered for challenges, and so the bugs don’t bite as much, but it’s really goofy looking. Even relative to some of the other unfortunate fashion statements we’ve seen in the history of this show, many of which escape me at the moment, because I am trying to figure out how “plain old tomato paste right out of the can” equates to “marinara sauce” on this so-called alleged “chicken Parmosan” sandwich I am eating. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/73 "2006-09-15T16:21:29Z")
Hmm, no mention of the “love connection” yet? Adam/Candice. Can they pull off a Robb/Amber or a Tina/Colby? (ewww) or will they be too much of a target? ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/74 "2006-09-15T16:27:22Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] I am wondering…no proof, just wondering…if Flicka might have set the chickens free on purpose because she’s a Vegan or something. [/QUOTE] I thought this too. She was just a little bit too slow in trying to catch them–there was a pause in between pulling up the box and then yelling, “Oh no, the chickens are out!” giving said chickens a good bit of a head start. And why would she be opening up the box anyway? To check and see if they’re still there? It’s not like the chickens were going to tunnel out and disappear or something. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/75 "2006-09-15T16:47:53Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Right there with you on that. What were they going to do with them anyway? 2 chickens will make a meal for 5 people, but that’s about it. What are they going to use for spices? Plain old boiled chicken? No thanks…I’ll stick to fresh fish and coconuts. If they were eggers, even more conflict. Who gets the egg today? Nope, the chickens were a distraction. [/QUOTE] Fish and coconuts are fine for one meal, perhaps. But after a few weeks of nothing but coconuts and a tiny bit of fish here and there, I bet you would change your mind about the deliciousness of plain old boiled chicken. They should have tied the chicken’s legs before sticking it under the box. Just use your shoelaces. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/76 "2006-09-15T16:58:10Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > I’m white but how can I not root for the nail salon manager? > > Also, the Korean guy is totally, totally hot. … and maybe a little gay… > [@Mehitabel](#): > > Another shallow question: Are the ladies given shaving stuff, or are we going to be seeing hairy pits and ragged eyebrows in a couple of weeks? Remember the eyebrow-plucking scene in Vanuatu? The ladies were grooming each other. One assumes the pits did not receive the same treatment. > [@Green Bean](#): > > We didn’t see much of the two women on this team–except for one whining about “no Asian jokes.” Why the hell not? It looked like, when they were trying to get to sleep, that he just… wouldn’t… shut… UP… > [@jsc1953](#): > > Has any survivor, at any time, ever succeded in making a fire by rubbing sticks together? Lil couldn’t even manage it, and she was a Boy Scout Troop leader. Bear in mind how much rainfall these islands get… you need absolutely bone dry tinder to make a fire start. I liked Filipino girl’s point: They put all the Asians on one team, and they’re _still_ diverse… Anybody else think they’re going to have more secret surprises at the end of the challenges? Kind of makes it random whether you want to win or lose… Those were some scrawny chickens, man. No big deal at this point that they got away–they’re all still fat and happy. I think it’s interesting how they mixed up the dynamics with rewards, after the fact: everybody got fire, so that’s not a factor. They gave the Honkies a box of fire-starting stuff, but the only time anybody’s had trouble starting a fire once they’ve got flint was following a torrential downpour, and if that happens, that box is going to leak like a sieve, so unless they still have the kerosene and use it wisely, even that isn’t going to help. So, the two real changes here are: one Honkie has to spend a night on exile island, giving Flicka a couple days to get her hooks in, and the Darkies got to vote off the irritating deadwood. The team that came in last might well do better in the long run because of this. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/77 "2006-09-15T17:14:12Z")
> [@](#): > > What the hell is a “roller girl”? don’t make me look it up on the website. She plays on a roller derby team. ---
**Author:** ![Stainz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stainz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stainz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/78 "2006-09-15T17:20:43Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] The first time I remember seeing this particular fashion statement, it was worn by [Julie Berry](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/survivors/bios/julie.shtml) in Vanuatu. I kind of think it’s a way to keep your legs covered for challenges, and so the bugs don’t bite as much, but it’s really goofy looking. [/QUOTE] Plus, think of the crazy tanlines!!! ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/79 "2006-09-15T17:49:25Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] What the hell is a “roller girl”? [/QUOTE] Porn star? I would totally hang out with Cao Boi. ---
**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/80 "2006-09-15T18:26:31Z")
I wondered how they planned to kill the chicken. Were they going to choke it? Please don’t hate me. I can’t help myself sometimes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=5)