# Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 1 - "I Can Forgive Her But I Don't Have To ..." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695 "2006-09-14T15:40:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/81 "2006-09-15T18:44:18Z")
[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth] I would totally hang out with Cao Boi. [/QUOTE] Totally, he’s a Vietnamese refugee hippie shaman _nail salon manager_. I want to read his autobiography and possibly join his cult. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/82 "2006-09-15T18:57:45Z")
[QUOTE=lisacurl] Totally, he’s a Vietnamese refugee hippie shaman _nail salon manager_. I want to read his autobiography and possibly join his cult. [/QUOTE] It’s easy to spot his clut’s initiates. Look for the red dot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/83 "2006-09-15T18:58:51Z")
[QUOTE=Slacker] It’s easy to spot his clut’s initiates. Look for the red dot. 😃 [/QUOTE] I had a sinus headache last night. I would have accepted a red dot to get rid of my “Bad Wind.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/84 "2006-09-15T19:59:15Z")
[QUOTE=lisacurl] Totally, he’s a Vietnamese refugee hippie shaman _nail salon manager_. I want to read his autobiography and possibly join his cult. [/QUOTE] And possibly Jewish-- he was wearing a Star of David necklace. Must be a member of that mysterious 14th tribe-- the Hanoi Hebrews. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/85 "2006-09-15T20:09:44Z")
[QUOTE=Tully Mars] I wondered how they planned to kill the chicken. Were they going to choke it? Please don’t hate me. I can’t help myself sometimes. [/QUOTE] You wring its neck. Grab it by the head and twist. (I was rooting for the chickens, too, except I was shouting out my favorite Shakespeare line: “Fly, Fleance, fly, fly,fly!” I was amused when Sekou was trying to explain why he shouldn’t be voted off. “Who else is going to build the fire?” I kept shouting, “Show me the fire!” I have to say that as soon as Jeff announced the challenge, I opined that the Asians would kick ass. How’s that for sterotyping? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/86 "2006-09-15T20:17:41Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I was amused when Sekou was trying to explain why he shouldn’t be voted off. “Who else is going to build the fire?” I kept shouting, “Show me the fire!” [/QUOTE] He does win certain level of recognition for not being connected to reality… In his exit speech, he said something to the effect of “We didn’t work well as a team, but I used teamwork to bring us all together, so they all got together and voted me off, and that teamwork is going to make them strong!” He’ll be like the weapons dealer in Mystery Men, throwing confetti and saying, “That’s my _team!!!_” as his friends edge quietly away from the crazy person… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/87 "2006-09-15T20:53:56Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] You wring its neck. Grab it by the head and twist. [/QUOTE] Machete. Neck. 'Nuff said? ---
**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/88 "2006-09-15T21:36:41Z")
I know my joke was bad, but I thought ya’ll would get it and at least groan a little. Survivor #1: “Where did Survivor #2 go?” Survivor #2: “He went out into the woods to choke the chicken.” ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/89 "2006-09-16T02:11:21Z")
According to my hubby, who’s annoyingly knowledgeable about many things involving Pacific islands, having lived all over that part of the world for 23 years, the biggest reason they’re never able to start a fire by friction is because the wood in that part of the world is just too soft. So while we’ve seen them get smoke before, that seems to be the limit of what friction can do. And I’m sure being damp doesn’t help, either. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/90 "2006-09-16T02:20:36Z")
[QUOTE=EthilristIt looked like, when they were trying to get to sleep, that he just… wouldn’t… shut… UP…[/QUOTE] I was referring to the interaction on the raft while they were going to the campsite, not the stuff in the previews. It seemed like she was opposed to any Asian jokes at all. I can’t understand not laughing at yourself. [QUOTE=John Mace] And possibly Jewish-- he was wearing a Star of David necklace. Must be a member of that mysterious 14th tribe-- the Hanoi Hebrews. [/QUOTE] Hanoi Hebrews? Count me in! I hear the rabbi, Chaim Nguyenstein, is superb! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/91 "2006-09-16T03:37:19Z")
I, for one, am annoyed by Sekou’s departure. As I mentioned in another thread, I have an indirect connection to him - a friend at work is his cousin. So I figured on getting some insider secrets on the hidden dynamics of the show as it progressed. Instead all I can hope for now is a review of the room service at some third world hotel. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/92 "2006-09-16T03:41:07Z")
The dynamics he could tell you about are the “biggest mouth gets the votes” dynamic and the “telling everyone else how to work while lolling about on the raft is not a good thing” dynamic… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/93 "2006-09-16T03:42:11Z")
Both of which even a freshman Survivor-watcher could have told him well before they even got on the ship. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/94 "2006-09-16T12:33:10Z")
[QUOTE=Stainz] Plus, think of the crazy tanlines!!! [/QUOTE] Yeah, I know. They’re _not_ going to be able to fix that with tan-in-a-can. Still, I wonder about the wisdom of it. You can get lightweight pants that are going to cover your _whole_ leg, know just your shins, which just makes more sense. Plus: it’s _damp_ out there – _hello stinky feet_ with those socks! > [@Ethilrist](#): > > … and [the Korean guy is] maybe a little gay… I sort of thought that about him, too, but my husband says it’s just because he’s from Nothern California. He does strike me as something of a hippie for some reason. But he sure is pretty, regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/95 "2006-09-16T13:24:31Z")
[QUOTE=Green Bean] AND THE “BIG CHIEF STEREOTYPE” AWARDS FOR WEEK ONE GO TO: WONDER BREAD: Candy Woodcock (heh), for being the ultimate sorority-type bimbo. . [/QUOTE] Actually, she seems to be very well rounded and intelligent, if the [website](http://www.survivorscoop.com/cookislands/cast/candice-woodcock/) is telling the truth: > [@](#): > > She received a perfect score on the math portion of her SATs… > received her Bachelor of Science Degree in biology and psychology with a minor in chemistry…Survivor AFRICA inspired Woodcock to do service work in Africa. Following her freshman year of college, she spent 10 and a half weeks living in a mud hut with a tribal family in the western highlands of Kenya…Woodcock also spent a summer studying health care in Chile and Peru and another summer splitting her time between work at the Cancer Clinic at George Washington University Hospital and La Clinica del Pueblo, a free Latino clinic in Washington, D.C…She has just begun graduate school at Georgetown University to attain a Master’s Degree in physiology and biophysics. She then plans to attend medical school. Pretty impressive for a bimbo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/96 "2006-09-16T13:26:55Z")
Also: > [@](#): > > Name: Cecilia Mansilla > Age: 42 > Occupation: Prelate, Loyal order of the Moose WTF? ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/97 "2006-09-16T16:50:40Z")
[QUOTE=Renee] Also: WTF? [/QUOTE] Link: [Moose International](http://www.mooseintl.org/public/default.aspx) Though I think he’s kinda freaky looking for a Moose! Random thoughts: Re: Freaka and the escaped poultry–I don’t buy the vegan thing. I think it’s just that her brains are as scrambled as her hair and she just plain forgot about the chickens. If she had done it on purpose, she would have totally confessed to the camera as any proud sanctimonious vegan would have! Funny-ass scene, though. And I had the same thought as **Slacker** about the Benny Hill music. Cao Boi is cool, but as far as the Asians go, I think the Filipina has the edge in that tribe. Nate learned the first lesson of Survivor 101–when outnumbered by the opposite gender, stand behind the loud guy and shut up! And am I the only one who sees a light-skinned-vs-dark-skinned dynamic in Hiki? But the most interesting thing to me was the fact that all of the ethnic-stereotype comments were coming from within the tribes. Award for dumbest statement of the show goes to the big Hispanic guy (Billy?) for his comment on how the Hispanics have the advantage because of their Caribbean heritage. Two things about that: 1) When’s the last time you were actually _in_ the Caribbean? and 2) Can you imagine the reaction if someone had said that about an African-American contestant in _Survivor:Africa_ ? Other than that, it was one of the most intereresting first episodes in a long time, IMHO. And I _liked_ the fact that the losing tribe got fire at TC. Love the TC set, too! Are the chickens going to roam the island until someone finally catches them? If so, they’d make great mascots a la Howlie, whaddya think, **rockle**? And since they’re wandering aroung the island for no good reason, howzabout naming them Bobby Jon and Steph? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/98 "2006-09-16T17:04:46Z")
[QUOTE=Green Bean] Hanoi Hebrews? Count me in! I hear the rabbi, Chaim Nguyenstein, is superb! [/QUOTE] I’ll bet their pho is awesome. It’s already kosher. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/99 "2006-09-16T17:17:48Z")
> [@Rockle](#): > > > [@Ethilrist](#): > > > > … and [the Korean guy is] maybe a little gay… > > I sort of thought that about him, too, but my husband says it’s just because he’s from Nothern California. He does strike me as something of a hippie for some reason. But he sure is pretty, regardless. My Survivor Watching Group (all of us in NorCal) immediately said “gay” when we saw him. Maybe next season we’ll have 4 teams divided by sexual orienation: Gay, Straight, Bi, Transgendered. Or, how about Republicans vs Democrats? That might be interesting! ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/100 "2006-09-16T19:28:27Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Or, how about Republicans vs Democrats? That might be interesting! [/QUOTE] I think that particular TC will air on November 7! 😉 Actually, that might make for an interesting immunity challenge: “THE DEMOCRATS WIN IMMUNITY!” “Jeff, why do you hate America?” 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=6)