# Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 1 - "I Can Forgive Her But I Don't Have To ..." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695 "2006-09-14T15:40:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/121 "2006-09-18T11:34:29Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] Let’s not, OK? Please? That’s what another board does- gives everyone nicknames based upon what the re-capper sez. :rolleyes: **We** are the SDMB, we set trends- we don’t follow them. [/QUOTE] I second this. I’m not real fond of the nicknames, unless they come about naturally or are obvious. It’s hard enough sorting out 20 people, and throwing out nicknames this soon is annoying. It’s a little different in the _TAR_ threads (like Team Ironleg), but let’s use real names here, please. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/122 "2006-09-18T15:20:22Z")
Nicknames happen. Might as well just deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/123 "2006-09-18T15:47:18Z")
[QUOTE=Mama Tiger] According to my hubby, who’s annoyingly knowledgeable about many things involving Pacific islands, having lived all over that part of the world for 23 years, the biggest reason they’re never able to start a fire by friction is because the wood in that part of the world is just too soft. So while we’ve seen them get smoke before, that seems to be the limit of what friction can do. And I’m sure being damp doesn’t help, either. [/QUOTE] This would explain why Pacific Islanders didn’t event fire until 1985! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/124 "2006-09-18T16:47:13Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] What’s wrong with “White phalaenopsis orchid boy”, WPOB, for Brad? 😃 [/QUOTE] Well, in my opinion, the problem is that the acronym has to be explained far too many many many times. Even if you put in the typed out phrase, that has to be explained. Many many times. Stick with “Brad”. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/125 "2006-09-18T23:49:38Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] (Re killing a chicken) Machete. Neck. 'Nuff said? [/QUOTE] Well, okay, but YOU hold the flailing chicken and I’LL swing the machete. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/126 "2006-09-19T02:02:52Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] Well, okay, but YOU hold the flailing chicken and I’LL swing the machete. [/QUOTE] Well, if all it takes is me holding the chicken to get on a desert island with you, then I’m there. 😉 Done it before, on the farm- but with an axe. Chickens- no problem. (Ducks- no can do- they look at you with such sad eyes.) There’s enough dry wood to make a fire there, but it takes a lot of work finding dry wood and more doing it by friction. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/127 "2006-09-19T15:15:31Z")
Wait a minute–we have no **RICH RANKINGS**! Where’s **Middleman** , huh? I’m a poor candidate to do them this season, as I don’t have Tivo or a working VCR, but if nobody else is willing, then I’ll step up to the mat. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/128 "2006-09-19T15:27:01Z")
[QUOTE=Green Bean] Wait a minute–we have no **RICH RANKINGS**! Where’s **Middleman** , huh? [/QUOTE] WTF is a “RICH RANKING”? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/129 "2006-09-19T15:55:58Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] WTF is a “RICH RANKING”? 😕 [/QUOTE] It’s a ranking of the contestants relative to previous contestants with different levels of awesomeness (one of whom is the original Survivor, Richard Hatch). Some examples can be found [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7345867&postcount=60), [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6810135&postcount=20), and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6084087&postcount=48). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/130 "2006-09-19T16:24:47Z")
[QUOTE=The Controvert] Well, in my opinion, the problem is that the acronym has to be explained far too many many many times. Even if you put in the typed out phrase, that has to be explained. Many many times. Stick with “Brad”. [/QUOTE] It was a joke, son. I said.. I said… I said it was a joke, son! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/131 "2006-09-19T16:30:27Z")
The imitation RICH RANKINGS: FORGOT TO FILE A 1040- I guess you couldn’t outwit everyone! Sekou: Don’t promise more than you’ve delivered. EATING BEEF JERKY- You’re still playing, but you’re praying for a tribe scramble! Nathan: Last man standing by the end of the first episode. Call Chris Daugherty for advice quick. Jessica: All it takes is one mistake to get booted and you’ve made yours. At least you might get a PETA ad. Jonathan: Steal a chicken. Acquire a target on your back. Billy: Your heavy metal skillz will not help you here. WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MERGE?- Middle of the pack players, the lotta ya! Becky, Cecelia, Christina, Jenny, John, Parvati - Sorry, I don’t remember anything about you guys. Try again next week. HEY! LOOK AT HIS MOHAWK-You might make the merge, but you’re grimacing from the jury row! Cao Boi - I didn’t make it up: he really is nicknamed Cowboy (his real name is Anh Tuan aka Antoine). Colorful character. Could go up or down. Adam and Candice - Nice you two found snuggle partners. But everybody else is thinking Amber and Rob. Brad and Jul - Which one of you is gay again? LOOKING FOR A BIG TOM TO ENGLISH DICTIONARY- Big Tom has spent more combined days on the show than anyone. But he didn’t quite grab the brass ring. Oscar: Climbed a tree. Not an amazing feat but at least you got noticed for doing something useful. Rebecca, Sundra, and maybe Stephannie - Smart ladies. Forming an alliance is a higher priority than even fire or shelter. ARE YOU A RAT OR A SNAKE?- Reserved for a MAXIMUM of two players. You have to be in the driver’s seat for this spot. What? You want me to predict the final two after just one episode? Come back later. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/132 "2006-09-19T16:40:19Z")
QUOTE=DrDeth] Done it before, on the farm- but with an axe. Chickens- no problem. (Ducks- no can do- they look at you with such sad eyes.) . [/QUOTE] You killed a chicken with an ax? :eek: Did it lay its head nicely on the chopping block for you or did you just swing away until it lay in a pile of bloody feathers in the dirt? (I’m so, so glad I live in an age where chickens come from the grocery store wrapped in plastic and de-boned, not a feather in sight.) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/133 "2006-09-19T16:54:06Z")
[QUOTE=Renee] QUOTE=DrDeth] Done it before, on the farm- but with an axe. Chickens- no problem. (Ducks- no can do- they look at you with such sad eyes.) . [/QUOTE] You killed a chicken with an ax? :eek: Did it lay its head nicely on the chopping block for you or did you just swing away until it lay in a pile of bloody feathers in the dirt? (I’m so, so glad I live in an age where chickens come from the grocery store wrapped in plastic and de-boned, not a feather in sight.) [/QUOTE] My cousin held it’s body (feet in one hand, other hand around the body), I held it’s head (with my left), and I swung the hatchet one/right handed, decapitating the bird in one stroke. My Aunts & Uncles made us do it, as we were “living on the farm” that summer. I also milked cows, drank milk fresh from a cow (not all that good, IMHO), brought the cows in, herded geese, slopped pigs, collected eggs (but fresh eggs \*are \* better), shoveled shit, made hay, and so forth. I really think that every American schoolchild should be required to do this one summer, sometime between age 13 and 18. I learned a lot- _mainly that I don’t want to be a farmer, it’s a hell of a lot of hard dirty work._ 😛 But I also learned that I _could_ kill a chicken, and where all the stuff we eat comes from. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/134 "2006-09-19T17:27:28Z")
**Little Nemo** , that wasn’t too bad, actually. Good job. ---
**Author:** ![brachyrhynchos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brachyrhynchos/32/376_2.png) [@brachyrhynchos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brachyrhynchos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/135 "2006-09-19T23:57:16Z")
I missed the televised show (and would have likely missed more, but Thank You **Draelin**! for being at the dopefest and clueing me in) so I caught on [cbs.com](http://cbs.com). I think it was one of the more enjoyable first episodes, probably because I think I can remember more of the participants right off the bat. I wonder how much of the equipment ended on the ocean floor during their frenzied disembarkment. I’m glad chickens float. And, on the topic of chickens, I’m going to give Jessica the benefit of the doubt and assume that she just had a brain fart on their whereabouts. Boy, did those chickens hightail it out of there. CAO BOI: Apply directly to the forehead! CAO BOI: Apply directly to the forehead! That was pretty cool to watch. I don’t remember much about Cristina (from the Aitu tribe), but from her bio on the cbs site, she seems pretty tough: an LA cop for 14 years, even after getting pinned by a car and later shot. Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/136 "2006-09-20T02:12:08Z")
Thanks, **Little Nemo**. I feel better, now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/137 "2006-09-21T15:06:31Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] It was a joke, son. I said.. I said… I said it was a joke, son! [/QUOTE] Sorry, I had a bad experience with the TWOP recaps in the past. Started with some head scratching at weird acronym references, ended with disgust at their artificial elitism. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/138 "2006-09-21T16:05:00Z")
[QUOTE=The Controvert] Sorry, I had a bad experience with the TWOP recaps in the past. Started with some head scratching at weird acronym references, ended with disgust at their artificial elitism. [/QUOTE] _Preach it_, brother! 🆒 Not to mention imaginary “shout outs” and some of the worst brown-nosing I have ever seen. The Re-cappers there must have the cleanest assholes in the Western World. :rolleyes: They also don’t know the difference between “funny once” and “funny twice”, damn if calling Jeff =“Peachy” ( :rolleyes: 😕 )got a chuckle once, then we _must_ do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/139 "2006-09-21T16:21:37Z")
A lot of the TWoP reviews also suffered from too much “this is me watching an episode of a show” effect. If you want to review a show, talk about what’s on the screen. If you want to talk about your life, start a blog. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695/140 "2006-09-21T21:49:30Z")
I’m a newb. I’ve never watched this show before, but I caught the first episode and I’m hooked I think. I didn’t watch Amazing Race until a couple of years ago either. You know why I’m really watching it? It’s entertaining of course, but I mostly I felt really left out of these threads! How stupid is that? I have no life. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-1-i-can-forgive-her-but-i-dont-have-to/372695.md?page=8)