# Survivor: Cook Islands Ep. 2 - "Dire Straights and Dead Weights" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579 "2006-09-21T16:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/61 "2006-09-22T18:44:09Z")
Unrelated to anything, It bugs me that 13 of the 20 contestants are from California. I find it more interesting when they are from all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/62 "2006-09-22T19:03:20Z")
**NurseCarmen** , I’m with you there. I’m just finishing up with Survivor Live and have made some interesting notes. Let me start with the not-so-obvious: When Yul found the HII the language in the note was interesting (or maybe I’m reading too much into it) Total speculation. No spoilers below: But the language made me think that there may be MORE Immunity Idols(!) Something like:“ **Any** Immunity Idol can last be used when 4 players are remaining” Anyway on to the Billy on Survivor Live report: “I didn’t mean to make anyone uncomfortable. I’m sorry. I’ll apologize to her at the reunion show … and then ask her out.” Sounds like someone else wrote the first part, but he couldn’t help himself on the last part… ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/63 "2006-09-22T20:16:15Z")
I agree that throwing a challenge at this stage is both arrogant and stupid. What’s with the lazy white dude not wanting to build a floor? Does he think that it’s never going to RAIN? Idiot. Speaking of rain, what kind of shelter is the Exile going to have if one of those cranking thunderstorms blow in? Eeks. I’m glad that they’re feeding the Survivors this time around. It’s not healthy to be so calorically deprived. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/64 "2006-09-22T20:26:59Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] Speaking of rain, what kind of shelter is the Exile going to have if one of those cranking thunderstorms blow in? Eeks. [/QUOTE] I was wondering about that too. Say, Yul was halfway there. Toss a couple of palm fronds on top of that big hole he dug looking for the immunity idol and he’s got himself a bona fide Rupert-style underground penthouse! ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/65 "2006-09-22T23:14:33Z")
[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong] So I’m wondering if they crew didn’t happen to turn a couple dozen chickens loose on the island. Or maybe turning a few loose every couple of days. Just to make things more interesting for us. [/QUOTE] I seriously doubt that. It can be extremely hazardous to an ecosystem to introduce foreign species into the environment. And while I don’t put it past the producers to consider it, I would be shocked if the local government would allow it. If they’re running around in the wild there, it’s got to be because they actually exist in the wild there (which I see now that **Wee Todd** has confirmed). As to whether or not they said anything directly to Lazy Billy, they definitely did. There was one scene where one of them was complaining that they were all sick and tired of having to ask him to do stuff, “Billy, can you get some water? Billy, can you help with the firewood?” etc. That was actually one of the reasons they said they wanted to throw the challenge to vote him off. I commented to my husband that instead of whining about how horrible it was to have to ask him to do stuff, just stop asking and let him lay on his lazy ass. Instead of throwing the challenge and actually _being_ short one person, just _pretend_ you’re short one person as far as camp-life goes and ignore him. Less stress on everyone else and you keep your numbers as you head towards a merge. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/66 "2006-09-23T00:18:09Z")
I just want to say, that with all the man love we have had here the last few seasons, that we need somebody to proclaim for a woman. That being said: I’d let Cristina use the 'cuffs on me anytime. Please carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/67 "2006-09-23T15:05:35Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I’m glad that they’re feeding the Survivors this time around. It’s not healthy to be so calorically deprived. [/QUOTE] But watching them be dangerously unhealthy and calorically deprived is part of the fun! ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/68 "2006-09-23T18:06:19Z")
[QUOTE=Astroboy14] Can I just say that I’d like to vote [Becky](http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/survivors/bio_becky.shtml) _onto_ my island? **YOW!!** [sup]yeah, I’m watching too… [/sup] Also, that one girl on the hispanic team really needs to lose the gym shorts! (and… I guess don a bikini bottom, if necessary. Though I can live with just losing the gym shorts.) I watch mostly for the strategy. [/QUOTE] And now, the real reason Astroboy went to work in Asia comes out. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/69 "2006-09-25T14:15:24Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > If I ever apply for the show, my audition tape will be a demonstration on how to use a firestarter. That’ll actually disqualify you, I would wager. > [@Astroyboy14](#): > > I watch mostly for the strategy. Is that like reading Playboy just for the articles? :dubious: I freely admit that I watch Survivor because I get to watch very pretty people being colossally stupid. re: Billy & Candace: Wouldn’t it be funny if he were right, and she really did fall in love at first sight? How many times have we seen teams seriously throw challenges before? I’ve seen discussions where they said, “Well, if we end up losing, we’ll dump (unpopular person),” and then they end up sucking in the challenge and dump the UP. This time, however, they _blatantly_ threw the challenge. Even Billy saw it coming. re: calling people on slackitude and people not knowing how to build a fire. How many seaons of this freaking show do there have to be before everybody who might possibly consider ever going on it will think “Hey, I bet I better pull my weight, or people will vote me off…” and “Hey, I think I better practice starting a fire…”? At least one more, I guess… re: giving them chickens and fishing gear: It’s better tv to have people running around catching chickens and spearing fish than lying around starving to death. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/70 "2006-09-25T14:48:47Z")
[QUOTE=Ethilrist] re: giving them chickens and fishing gear: It’s better tv to have people running around catching chickens and spearing fish than lying around starving to death. [/QUOTE] Which actually reminds me of something I was thinking about earlier: d’you think they could catch a chicken with one of the Hawaiian slings? It would no doubt be extremely messy, and they probably wouldn’t show it, but would it work? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/71 "2006-09-25T15:21:37Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Which actually reminds me of something I was thinking about earlier: d’you think they could catch a chicken with one of the Hawaiian slings? It would no doubt be extremely messy, and they probably wouldn’t show it, but would it work? [/QUOTE] I seem to remember reading something about one of the Insider videos that talked about Billy trying to spear a chicken and just not succeeding. Ozzy made a comment about the only thing getting hurt being the chicken’s dignity. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/72 "2006-09-25T15:27:55Z")
[QUOTE=GingerOfTheNorth] And now, the real reason Astroboy went to work in Asia comes out. [/QUOTE] **Astroboy bats his eyes innocently…** ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/73 "2006-09-25T15:43:23Z")
[QUOTE=Astroboy14] **Astroboy bats his eyes innocently…** [/QUOTE] As Astrogirl rolls hers, I’m sure… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/74 "2006-09-25T15:59:24Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] As Astrogirl rolls hers, I’m sure… 😃 [/QUOTE] Pretty much hourly, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/75 "2006-09-25T16:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] I seem to remember reading something about one of the Insider videos that talked about Billy trying to spear a chicken and just not succeeding. Ozzy made a comment about the only thing getting hurt being the chicken’s dignity. [/QUOTE] See, now, if they had shown that in the episode, Ozzy might not look like as much of a tool. I mean, he _is_ a tool, but at least he’s a _funny_ tool, which sometimes is OK. _Sometimes._ ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/76 "2006-09-25T16:31:41Z")
[QUOTE=Slacker] That’s what Yul should have done! If I found that sucker I’d gather up twigs and make my best Blair Witch Project looking stick-doll, put it back in that box, and bury that em effer. Can you imagine how hilarious it would be if someone else found it, and presented it to Jeff at TC? 😃 [/QUOTE] That is the most amazingly wonderful idea I have heard in quite some time. I cracked up just trying to imagine the look on some poor player’s face when Jeff tells him that the stick figure isn’t the hidden idol. [QUOTE=PunditLisa] What’s with the lazy white dude not wanting to build a floor? Does he think that it’s never going to RAIN? Idiot. [/QUOTE] Agreed. Does the guy (I forget his name) not realize how much better sleeping on (fairly) dry bamboo is than sleeping in mud? The job was half done anyways, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/77 "2006-09-25T17:03:33Z")
[QUOTE=FlightlessBird Anyway on to the Billy on Survivor Live report: “I didn’t mean to make anyone uncomfortable. I’m sorry. I’ll apologize to her at the reunion show … and then ask her out.” Sounds like someone else wrote the first part, but he couldn’t help himself on the last part…[/QUOTE] Huh. Would this constitute a fairly major spoiler? I was always under the impression that the voted-off Survivors got to hang out together while the show finished taping. Does this mean Candice goes all the way (or at least to the Jury)? Otherwise, wouldn’t they have already met and had the conversation? ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579/78 "2006-09-25T17:11:08Z")
In post-voted-off interviews, they always talk about other players like they go all the way to the end of the game, even if the interviewee knows they’re voted off the next week. So I wouldn’t consider that a spoiler at all, just the standard reality show interview format. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-cook-islands-ep-2-dire-straights-and-dead-weights/373579.md?page=3)