# Survivor: Exile Island Ep. 2 - "Breakdown" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703 "2006-02-09T17:07:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/61 "2006-02-10T16:49:48Z")
It’s a lovely hypocrisy, isn’t it? You usually see people whining that they were stabbed in the back, that no one told them what was going on, or that people can’t be honest and talk to you face-to-face. Well, Aras, that’s why. No one _really_ wants to be told that they’re going home. They mght think they do, but it’s just not true. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/62 "2006-02-10T16:51:10Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Aras was trying to be nice by telling Melinda and Cirie the pecking order, but in the end he just came across as an arrogant prick. Not to mention stupid. " Shades of Lex? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/63 "2006-02-10T16:52:09Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Mental note: test spears ON LAND. One of the guys did. He dropped it, too. Little tip, guys: it’s called a _lanyard._ ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/64 "2006-02-10T17:19:22Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > I think that was I who said that. As a Navy Brat and a lifelong aviation enthusiast, I’m hoping Terry wins. But he won’t, because my picks never win. My pick has won only once…Tom. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/65 "2006-02-10T17:32:04Z")
I usually have a top three that I want to win that I form sometime around the merge. The last three installments, one of my top three have won. Of the installments I’ve seen: Australia- Colby, Jeff and Rodger. No luck Africa- Ethan, Frank, and Kelly. Ethan won, but I didn’t care. All-Stars- Rob, Kathy, and Tom. I was mad for a week when Amber won. Vanautu- Chad, Chris, and Rory. I was ecstatic when Chris outplayed Ami. Palau- Tom, Ian and Steph. Tom was the most deserving winner ever. Guatemala- Gary, Danni, and Rafe. Danni was my favorite. Preliminary faves so far in Exile Island- Terry, Nick, and Misty ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/66 "2006-02-10T17:37:04Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > One more thing. Did everyone else notice that in the written clue that Bruce got, the word “why” was enclosed in quotes? My guess is that the idol is hidden in some Y shaped formation. And, on a long shot guess, I think Bruce might have found the idol - unlike Misty, they didn’t show him looking for it and there was no mention of it once he left the island. It’s possible he found it and they’re saving that information as a surprise for a future episode. I think they’re trying to keep it a mystery. They showed about the same amount of footage for both trips to the island so far. I’m guessing they’re going to try to keep us wondering until it’s brought out one night with a dramatic flourish. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/67 "2006-02-10T17:54:35Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > Preliminary faves so far in Exile Island- Terry, Nick, and Misty I really think Misty and Amber could be the same person. No opinion either way, just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/68 "2006-02-10T18:29:30Z")
Sally the spear dropper needs to go. That’s just too stupid for words, floating around in deep water “ooh, can I play with that?” Whaddya bet, she goes far. I don’t like Shane but not because he wants to quit. He’s an addict, pure and simple, and he _is_ a little temporarily insane right now. Who knows what he’s addicted to besides nicotine & caffeine. I hope he stays for a couple weeks so at least the chemicals get out of his system. Ara was funny. “One of you two is going home.” “No! No! Lie to us! Don’t tell us the truth! Oh my God, I can’t believe he just came out and told us the truth! I’m not into this New Age mumbo-jumbo, and I never will be!” I kept expecting her to turn into that woman from Trading Spouses. “Satan! You work for Satan!!! I don’t want your devil’s money!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/69 "2006-02-10T19:43:11Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Hate to be shallow here, but which one of the ladies had more cleavage than all the others combined? People were ragging on HeiDDi in Amazon for being bigger than seemed natural… It’s Danielle. I think she has pushup pads in her swimsuit top. It must be the removable type, because her boobs weren’t threatening to come through my tv screen lastweek. ---
**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/70 "2006-02-10T19:50:27Z")
> [@Batsinma Belfry](#): > > It’s Danielle. I think she has pushup pads in her swimsuit top. It must be the removable type, because her boobs weren’t threatening to come through my tv screen lastweek. Oh yes, I had to rewind the TiVo and slow-mo through that shot again. Twice. There was some definite ‘enhancement’ going on. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/71 "2006-02-10T20:13:00Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I really think Misty and Amber could be the same person. No opinion either way, just sayin’. That may turn out to be the case, but in her one bit of deception with the immunity idol, Misty has shown far more depth than Amber showed in the three shows I have watched with her on it! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/72 "2006-02-10T22:03:47Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Sally the spear dropper needs to go. That’s just too stupid for words, floating around in deep water “ooh, can I play with that?” Whaddya bet, she goes far. And then whines how sorry she is while batting her eyelids with a big grin on her face. She was not only dumb enough to lose the spear, but too stupid too understand what a genuinely monumental fuck-up it was. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/73 "2006-02-10T22:24:46Z")
Great episode. I loved the challenges, especially the boat one. Imagine busting your butt like that and LOSING!! How freakin’ demoralizing. But… I thought Jeff was a real jerk making Melinda cry. He knew what affect he’d have on her, and he had to know she was toast. And Memento-Guy is out of his mind. He’s gotta go. I don’t care if he’s strong in the challenges, he’s wrecking the tribe spirit. He is a major league A-hole. He wants out, let him out! Three days on Exile Island with no food and no water… not a single luxury! Brutal. Did I miss something about Jeff putting some provisions on the island? I saw that he got a flint. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/74 "2006-02-10T23:11:09Z")
> [@middleman](#): > > That may turn out to be the case, but in her one bit of deception with the immunity idol, Misty has shown far more depth than Amber showed in the three shows I have watched with her on it! Perhaps. But, then again, maybe Amber’s stuck in some kind of bizarro reality TV “Groundhog Day” world, where she keeps having to do this stuff over and over again until she proves she is capable of independent thought and/or eating 4 lbs of beef products. Then again … maybe it’s punishment for _us_ to have to keep seeing her over and over again. She’s not tragically hideously ugly; just so vapid that she makes my hair hurt. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/75 "2006-02-10T23:20:13Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Three days on Exile Island with no food and no water… not a single luxury! Brutal. Did I miss something about Jeff putting some provisions on the island? I saw that he got a flint. They have a water barrel there, but the water needs to be boiled. Bruce got a flint, but I don’t think he ever did get a fire started. I think he broke his flint. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/76 "2006-02-10T23:27:28Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > They have a water barrel there, but the water needs to be boiled. Bruce got a flint, but I don’t think he ever did get a fire started. I think he broke his flint. My fire is broken! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/77 "2006-02-10T23:54:22Z")
> [@Lamar Mundane](#): > > My fire is broken! Is that what he said? I thought it sounded wierd. That guy is a bit scary and pretty annoying. I think he’ll be kicked out quickly. I forgot about the water barrel. That makes sense-- I always remember the rule of 3s-- 3 minutes w/o air; 3 days w/o water; 3 weeks w/o food. All = death (+/-). ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2006, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/78 "2006-02-11T00:21:04Z")
> [@Lamar Mundane](#): > > My fire is broken! [Ha!](http://www.glarkware.com/media/product_detail_t_random_ox_big.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/79 "2006-02-11T00:22:28Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I really think Misty and Amber could be the same person. No opinion either way, just sayin’. Umm, NO. One was a coattail-riding warmbody with the body of a 9-year-old boy who won a million bucks on an undeserving second try because she was up against the biggest jerk in Survivor history, and the other, while perhaps a little off in her I-have-the-immunity-idol strategy, is an engineer, somewhat on the sexy side and will use either brains, body or both to (hopefully) stick around for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703/80 "2006-02-11T03:36:56Z")
Besides Amber never would have survived a night on Exile Island. If she doesn’t have another person to follow around, she ceases to exist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-exile-island-ep-2-breakdown/343703.md?page=5)