# Survivor Finale - 5/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 11, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948 "2008-05-11T20:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/41 "2008-05-12T14:56:38Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] Imagine the dominant Survivor player an Ozzie and Amanda coupling could produce! [/QUOTE] No kidding! Overall, I found the way the final 3 played out disappointing…of the three, I most wanted Cerie to win, and of the two, I vastly would have preferred Amanda to win. Parvati…yuck. Can’t stand her. But of course, we learned way back in the first season that the most likable person doesn’t always win, and that’s just part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/42 "2008-05-12T15:04:22Z")
She said last night they’re still a thing. Ozzy confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/43 "2008-05-12T15:07:15Z")
I didn’t watch the reunion show – who won viewer fave? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/44 "2008-05-12T15:08:08Z")
James. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/45 "2008-05-12T15:15:28Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] I haven’t seen the reunion show yet…I only watched it up to the vote reading. I’m going to watch it tonight, but I’m dying of curiosity…are Ozzie & Amanda together? Sounds like maybe not, but I’m kind of hoping they are. I definitely wanted her to win instead of Parvati, but second place and a cute boyfriend isn’t too shabby, either! 🙂 [/QUOTE] Ozzie made his little speech as a nod/joke to Denise’s “they won’t let me be a lunch lady anymore” speech last season. Amanda was blushing with embarassment through the whole thing, saying “Stop it!” and “That’s not true!”, and then said they were still together. > [@spoke-](#): > > Imagine the dominant Survivor player an Ozzie and Amanda coupling could produce! Survivor 74: Mare Tranquilis - Romber vs. Ozzanda. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/46 "2008-05-12T15:18:21Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] So, I think with two seasons of evidence, we can safely say that Amanda cannot get through a Final Tribal Council without choking. Ever. As **TIP** said above, she answered the wrong question when she was answering Cirie. The appropriate answer to Cirie asking “Why does Parvati deserve a million more than me” is “She doesn’t. The object of this game is not to give the million to the most deserving player, but to the most deserving player who’s still here at Final Tribal Council. We all played this game for ourselves. I could not win against you, period. You have three children. You’re incredibly charming. I could not win against you. And that meant I had to vote you out.” [/QUOTE] Yes, that is exactly what I was screaming into the TV set as she was speaking. 🙂 Except that it’s not even about voting for the most “deserving” player in the final two. It’s voting for whomever each jury member wants for whatever reason. Sometimes it’s the person who needs the money, and sometimes it’s the person who played the game best, or sometimes it’s whoever wins a coin toss. At any rate, the correct answer was that Amanda thought she had a better chance to win going against Parvati than against Cirie. That’s it. That’s all there is to it. But Amanda seems to have some need for the other players to think she’s all virtuous and nice, even if she has to lie to make them think that! ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/47 "2008-05-12T15:28:48Z")
Amanda should have done her opening speech along the lines of “I’m here. Again. I’ve gotten all the way to the end of two seasons and sat before the jury. Twice! Last time you could argue it was a fluke. But not twice. I deserve to win because its something no other survivor has ever done. I deserve to win because I’m the best.” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/48 "2008-05-12T15:33:27Z")
I came here to post how Amanda should have answered Cirie’s question, but I see that 7 or 8 other people have beaten me to it. So instead, I’ll pose this: What the \*hell \*was Natalie talking about? (the thing about flirting and the bedroom) She even confused Probst (“Did anybody get that?”) ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/49 "2008-05-12T15:33:51Z")
Did they show which jurors voted for Amanda and which voted for Parv?? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/50 "2008-05-12T15:42:26Z")
[QUOTE=phungi] Did they show which jurors voted for Amanda and which voted for Parv?? [/QUOTE] James, Ozzie, & Erik voted Amanda, everyone else voted Parvati. > [@squeegee](#): > > Amanda should have done her opening speech along the lines of “I’m here. Again. I’ve gotten all the way to the end of two seasons and sat before the jury. Twice! Last time you could argue it was a fluke. But not twice. I deserve to win because its something no other survivor has ever done. I deserve to win because I’m the best.” I’m wondering if she was allowed to mention how far she got in China at all, since it was being aired while they were filming FvF. Even if she could, it might have backfired, since for all they knew, she had already won $1M all the time they were doing this series. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/51 "2008-05-12T15:46:24Z")
\*\*squeegee \*\*had a much better approach for Amanda. I also seem to think that she let Parvati take credit for all the power moves without so much as a whimper. I think she should have fought to take that credit. As for taking Parv over Cerie, she said that Parvati played a much different game that her. Does that sound wrong to anyone else? From this side of the TV Set, it seemed that those two played the same game, and Cerie was the odd-woman out. I think Cerie should’ve tried that play when angling for final two. Very satisfying finale. I love Burnett for the Final 2 dustup. Good call, although I think he was hoping for a Fan vs a Fave as the final 2. In the end I’ll bet he doesn’t care as long as Crest is paying him money. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/52 "2008-05-12T16:04:41Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] What the \*hell \*was Natalie talking about? (the thing about flirting and the bedroom) She even confused Probst (“Did anybody get that?”) [/QUOTE] I thought she was asking was she bisexual… ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/53 "2008-05-12T16:10:12Z")
[QUOTE=muldoonthief] James, Ozzie, & Erik voted Amanda, everyone else voted Parvati. [/QUOTE] I blame Eliza for this fiasco. She took such a long time to decide on her vote. She clearly wrote down the wrong name. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/54 "2008-05-12T16:11:06Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] What the \*hell \*was Natalie talking about? (the thing about flirting and the bedroom) She even confused Probst (“Did anybody get that?”) [/QUOTE] I dunno, but whatever it was, it came across as creepy. But then again, I find Natalie creepy as a general proposition. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/55 "2008-05-12T16:26:34Z")
[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn] I thought she was asking was she bisexual… [/QUOTE] That did cross my mind. You would think they might’ve had a girl-to-girl chat at some point before the damn Final Tribal Council, though. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/56 "2008-05-12T16:35:25Z")
so what would have happened if the (8 person) Jury had tied? Fire starting battle, right there in the CBS studio? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/57 "2008-05-12T16:37:50Z")
One thing Amanda did get was the 2nd place $100k prize. Twice. In three months. That’s not bad compensation. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/58 "2008-05-12T16:38:56Z")
[QUOTE=squeegee] so what would have happened if the (8 person) Jury had tied? Fire starting battle, right there in the CBS studio? [/QUOTE] That was my question as well, 'cause they sure played it up while the votes were being read and made it look as if it might be a tie at the end. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/59 "2008-05-12T16:42:55Z")
[QUOTE=Astroboy14] That was my question as well, 'cause they sure played it up while the votes were being read and made it look as if it might be a tie at the end. [/QUOTE] Speaking of rules…does CBS have documented anywhere exactly what their rules are for extracting a player for a medical emergency? Do they state what exactly can they do at camp and leave you in, vs what requires yanking the player? That (just for example) you can receive oral antibiotics, but if you need an IV you have to leave the game? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/60 "2008-05-12T16:43:03Z")
Thanks, everyone! Glad to hear they are having fun…maybe another Survivor wedding coming up! 🙂 I agree with everyone that Amanda blew it with Cerie’s question. It’s NEVER about who else deserves to win, it’s about _what can I do to win it myself_. The jury is going to respect an answer like that far more. And, what is with that Natalie? Is she the weirdest thing or what? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948.md?page=4)