# Survivor Finale - 5/11

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948 "2008-05-11T20:15:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/61 "2008-05-12T16:44:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
James.  
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Excellent. He deserved it.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/62 "2008-05-12T16:49:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
I agree with everyone that Amanda blew it with Cerie’s question. It’s NEVER about who else deserves to win, it’s about _what can I do to win it myself_. The jury is going to respect an answer like that far more.  
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I was just yelling at Amanda, “why the _hell_ are you talking up how great your opponent is?!? Are you stupid???”

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/63 "2008-05-12T17:01:52Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
I was just yelling at Amanda, “why the _hell_ are you talking up how great your opponent is?!? Are you stupid???”  
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Yes. You never want the jury hear your answer and thing “she’s right…her opponent IS the best player.”

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/64 "2008-05-12T17:16:10Z")

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Unfortunately for me, life interfered with my reality TV schedule and I kind of … fell off the grid this season (that’ll teach me to become a mom during sweeps month), but did I hear correctly? Next season will be in high definition? Because I will TOTALLY start looking into a nanny and/or earlier bedtime for the baby if that is the case.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/65 "2008-05-12T17:17:24Z")

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[QUOTE=rockle]  
Unfortunately for me, life interfered with my reality TV schedule and I kind of … fell off the grid this season (that’ll teach me to become a mom during sweeps month), but did I hear correctly? Next season will be in high definition? Because I will TOTALLY start looking into a nanny and/or earlier bedtime for the baby if that is the case.  
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Yes. The next season is in Africa, in HD. Lotsa HD animals to see, even surfing hippos (yes, really).

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/66 "2008-05-12T17:23:51Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
Yes. The next season is in Africa, in HD. Lotsa HD animals to see, even surfing hippos (yes, really).  
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Well, then I’m in. _Again_. I will just tell the baby it is a “nature program.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/67 "2008-05-12T17:25:05Z")

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[QUOTE=FlightlessBird]  
I love Burnett for the Final 2 dustup. Good call, although I think he was hoping for a Fan vs a Fave as the final 2.  
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In hindsight, it shouldn’t be too surprising that they’ve gone back to Final 2. I don’t have exact vote tallies for all Final 3’s in front of me, but I doubt if any third place contestant has received more than 1 vote. They were always totally irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/68 "2008-05-12T17:26:13Z")

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[QUOTE=rockle]  
Well, then I’m in. _Again_. I will just tell the baby it is a “nature program.”  
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Welcome back! I missed you. And congratulations!

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/69 "2008-05-12T17:33:32Z")

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[QUOTE=jsc1953]  
In hindsight, it shouldn’t be too surprising that they’ve gone back to Final 2. I don’t have exact vote tallies for all Final 3’s in front of me, but I doubt if any third place contestant has received more than 1 vote. They were always totally irrelevant.  
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Great season. Terrible ending. I think if any season needed a final three, this would have been it. There were guaranteed votes for at least Amanda and Parvati, but I think Cirie would have Perry Masoned them both in the jury vote.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/70 "2008-05-12T18:20:48Z")

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[QUOTE=muldoonthief]  
Survivor 74: Mare Tranquilis - Romber vs. Ozzanda.  
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Stop it! You’ll make me gay.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/71 "2008-05-12T18:22:17Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
One thing Amanda did get was the 2nd place $100k prize. Twice. In three months. That’s not bad compensation.  
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Don’t forget, she also got Ozzy.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/72 "2008-05-12T18:40:23Z")

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[QUOTE=squeegee]  
Yes. The next season is in Africa, in HD. Lotsa HD animals to see, even surfing hippos (yes, really).  
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I sure hope they come thru on the HD part. They’ve been promising that the “next” season would be HD for several seasons now.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/73 "2008-05-12T18:58:28Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
I sure hope they come thru on the HD part. They’ve been promising that the “next” season would be HD for several seasons now.  
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You know, I thought they did…glad to hear I’m not crazy. I hope they do it this time, too…the scenery sounds like it’s going to be awesome.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/74 "2008-05-12T19:07:47Z")

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According to [Scientific American](http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=survivor-sharpens-up-with), it’s been hard to do because of special considerations for Survivor, like the number of cameras they use and the crap they’re exposed to:

For a while, HD cameras were still considered more clunky and less reliable than their standard-definition counterparts – not a good fit for being dragged around a rainy tropical beach, shooting physical competitions where capturing every second counts. Additionally, the cost of upgrading an elaborate on-location production like “Survivor” to HD is higher than a studio-based series like “Idol” or “Dancing.” All told, “Survivor” uses about 20 cameras, with some for shooting underwater and from helicopters.

During the past couple years, HD camera reliability has improved greatly, and the cost has become more comparable to standard-definition equipment.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/75 "2008-05-12T19:31:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Terminus Est]  
Don’t forget, she also got Ozzy.  
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Even better compensation. **swoon**

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**Author:** ![Pollux\_Oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Pollux\_Oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pollux_Oil)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/76 "2008-05-12T19:32:59Z")

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I enjoyed the finale. I didn’t like Parvati at the start of the season but I could appreciate her win because she did play a good game. I don’t think Amanda’s jury performance was that bad…I think she definitely screwed up Cirie’s question but other than that it was loads better than her performance in China.

I thought there was the possibility of a Parvati-Natalie sex tape after Nat’s question, but I don’t think Parvati needs the money now.

James has to be one of my favorite Survivors ever. He’s such a nice guy and he comes up with so many great one-liners without ever coming across as nasty or mean.

I think the reunion show was one of the better reunions. It was entertaining and I liked the (not-so) subtle digs that Ozzy and Chet both gave to Jeff. 😃

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/77 "2008-05-12T19:37:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Pollux Oil]

I think the reunion show was one of the better reunions. It was entertaining and I liked the (not-so) subtle digs that Ozzy and Chet both gave to Jeff. 😃  
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Refresh my memory.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/78 "2008-05-12T19:38:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
According to [Scientific American](http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=survivor-sharpens-up-with), it’s been hard to do because of special considerations for Survivor, like the number of cameras they use and the crap they’re exposed to:

For a while, HD cameras were still considered more clunky and less reliable than their standard-definition counterparts – not a good fit for being dragged around a rainy tropical beach, shooting physical competitions where capturing every second counts. Additionally, the cost of upgrading an elaborate on-location production like “Survivor” to HD is higher than a studio-based series like “Idol” or “Dancing.” All told, “Survivor” uses about 20 cameras, with some for shooting underwater and from helicopters.

During the past couple years, HD camera reliability has improved greatly, and the cost has become more comparable to standard-definition equipment.  
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Of course, Deadliest Catch has been using HD cameras for the past 3 seasons in conditions far worse than you see on Survivor, and they’re all junk by the time they’re done. I just think Burnett is cheap - notice that the jury members have to live in tents after they’re voted out.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/79 "2008-05-12T19:43:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
According to [Scientific American](http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=survivor-sharpens-up-with), it’s been hard to do because of special considerations for Survivor, like the number of cameras they use and the crap they’re exposed to:  
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From the same article:

> [@](#):
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> CBS has not announced plans to upgrade their other reality travelogue, “The Amazing Race.” But the higher-rated “Survivor” going HD should be an encouraging sign for “Race” fans.

_fingers crossed_

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-finale-5-11/448948/80 "2008-05-12T19:45:16Z")

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Speaking of The Amazing Race (in a total but hopefully short hijack), I just saw Sarah (the woman with the prosthetic leg and the total asshole boyfriend/mechanic) on a commercial, though for what, I don’t remember. All I managed to do was notice it was her and go “Hey!” and point at the TV to get **supervenusfreak** ’s attention…

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