# Survivor: Game Changers Starts on Wednesday **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580 "2017-03-06T21:15:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/41 "2017-03-16T06:24:02Z")
I would have gotten rid of Tai. He’s a crazy, unpredictable variable. As for the goats, give me a break. Have those guys never eaten lamb? Eat the baby, and then eat the mama. Goat = food. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/42 "2017-03-16T13:38:46Z")
All the goat slaughter discussion assumed that at least one of the 6 tribe members knew how to kill, dress and butcher a goat using nothing but a dull machete. They may have just decided that fishing was easier. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/43 "2017-03-16T13:41:09Z")
JT knows how to slaughter an animal. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/44 "2017-03-16T14:11:28Z")
They have all the fish they need and 4 chickens. There’s no reason to slaughter that insanely cute baby goat. Besides, these guys aren’t first timers. They know perfectly well how nannycide would go down with the fans back home. Also, goat isn’t lamb. There’s a reason you don’t see much goat at your local supermarket. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/45 "2017-03-16T14:13:48Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > JT knows how to slaughter an animal. Yeah, he was a rancher if I recall. Glad to see Caleb go, I didn’t feel like he added much to the game. I wonder if Sandra is overplaying her hand? ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/46 "2017-03-16T14:54:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > JT knows how to slaughter an animal. She’s not in the goat-owning tribe, but Andrea could also dress and butcher an animal. She was our neighbor when she was younger and she raised cattle for 4H (we bought 1/4 of one of her 4H steers) and her family are farmers and hunters. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/47 "2017-03-16T15:03:06Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > They have all the fish they need and 4 chickens. There’s no reason to slaughter that insanely cute baby goat. Besides, these guys aren’t first timers. They know perfectly well how nannycide would go down with the fans back home. 4 chickens = 2 meals. > [@](#): > > Also, goat isn’t lamb. There’s a reason you don’t see much goat at your local supermarket. That’s just cultural bias. Goat is widely eaten around the world. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/48 "2017-03-16T17:08:04Z")
Well, the cultural reasons stand since Im pretty sure all the contestants were raised in that same culture. Even amongst hunters, killing a baby and it’s mom isn’t generally kosher. Certainly when it’s not even remotely an eat or die situation. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/49 "2017-03-16T18:56:27Z")
It’s _Survivor_. You eat shit you normally don’t eat. That’s part of the game. If your sensibilities are that you’ll eat lamb but not goat, you don’t belong on _Survivor_. All of them were happy to eat a goat, with the caveat that it was a grown, male goat. They didn’t want to be goat-bambi killers. It had nothing to do with “goat”. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/50 "2017-03-16T19:38:44Z")
Uh yeah, but we are talking about what actually happened which was they caught a baby goat and mom. Sure they might eat some other goat but as one said “you know the only reason we caught her was because she wouldn’t leave her baby”. Come on, man, grow a heart. TV would not be the better for a Survivor episode killing a baby goat. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/51 "2017-03-16T21:10:13Z")
Eh. Baby animals are killed by the hundreds every day for food. Americans are squeamish little cowards in that they want their “baby animal” food, but don’t want to see how that food reaches the market. We’re omnivores. We kill other animals for food. It has been that way for at hundreds of thousands of years. ---
**Author:** ![SUZ\_MAC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@SUZ\_MAC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SUZ_MAC)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/52 "2017-03-16T21:12:39Z")
This is one longtime fan that would have said adios had they killed the goats. If anyone thinks that’s being “sensitive as shit”, well then guess what? I’m sensitive as shit. I don’t watch Survivor to see animals killed. I absolutely know it’s a possibility. I just don’t need to actually see or hear about it. Mmmmkay? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/53 "2017-03-16T22:18:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Eh. Baby animals are killed by the hundreds every day for food. Americans are squeamish little cowards in that they want their “baby animal” food, but don’t want to see how that food reaches the market. We’re omnivores. We kill other animals for food. It has been that way for at hundreds of thousands of years. Yeah well maybe we can save the slaughterhouse life lessons for a more serious show. Ymmv. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/54 "2017-03-17T01:46:28Z")
> [@SUZ\_MAC](#): > > This is one longtime fan that would have said adios had they killed the goats. If anyone thinks that’s being “sensitive as shit”, well then guess what? I’m sensitive as shit. I don’t watch Survivor to see animals killed. I absolutely know it’s a possibility. I just don’t need to actually see or hear about it. Mmmmkay? Too late. [It happened in Season 2.](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=109136) Of course, I would not expect them to show the goats being killed. And you know they kill chickens, right? Not to mention loads of fish. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/55 "2017-03-17T02:04:23Z")
Ok John, we get it. You’ve held up a mirror and the hypocrisy we’re seeing is us. It’s been us all along. Survivor shouldn’t have punked out and should have held up that mirror to all of America. The cowardice of the current players failed us all. Now, do you think Ozzy is going to out fox Cirie or not? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/56 "2017-03-17T02:30:09Z")
Well, you can come to whatever conclusions you like. It’s just a stupid reality show. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/57 "2017-03-17T02:46:45Z")
> [@araminty](#): > > J They let them go. HUH? What about keeping them and milking the nanny? Nobody even suggested it? Goats are greedy and smart, I bet it would be easy enough to tame them with a bit of corn. No refrigeration out there. Warm Goats Milk sounds revolting to me. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/58 "2017-03-17T14:20:52Z")
Anyway… how about that HII? I couldn’t tell by the camera angle, but I’m assuming the other two tribes had one in the same spot as well. I wonder if they will reappear at every challenge. I was hoping Troyzan would get spotted causing a mad dash by the other two teams. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/59 "2017-03-17T14:50:12Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Anyway… how about that HII? I couldn’t tell by the camera angle, but I’m assuming the other two tribes had one in the same spot as well. I wonder if they will reappear at every challenge. I was hoping Troyzan would get spotted causing a mad dash by the other two teams. In Dalton Ross’s interview with Jeff yesterday, Jeff stated that they ONLY place the HII in the challenge if someone from that tribe found a clue. Since Troyzan was the only one who found it, only his table had an idol. They don’t want it to turn into everyone spending the challenge looking for idols instead of doing the challenge. He also confirmed that if JT found an idol in someone else’s bag, he couldn’t have taken it - you can’t transfer ownership of an idol by stealing it. Finding & stealing a clue would have been fair game though. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580/60 "2017-03-17T15:24:58Z")
I’m sure JT knew that too. It would still have been nice to know if someone had one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/survivor-game-changers-starts-on-wednesday/781580.md?page=4)